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Re: Scarfo FBI File Released
[Re: hoodlum]
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11/15/18 06:51 PM
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For many years .....dry snitch ... and informant never in court I don’t believe.... Lots and lots of stuff happened before internet shit did not get out ...even this about Harry did not get out till after internet.
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Re: Scarfo FBI File Released
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11/15/18 08:37 PM
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I can only imagine what went through Scarfo’s mind when he became boss. His two predecessors had both been murdered. Then he tries to collect a street tax on Harry’s crew but they tell him off.. so Scarfo has to go to war with the Riccobenes to let everyone know Scarfo was in power and in total control and would go after anyone who didnt fall in line.
People say Nicky was too violent compared to Angelo, but look what happened to Angelo... gunned down in front of his own home. Bruno was obviously not feared enough by his capos and didnt have a strong enough faction behind him that scare off anyone who wanted to make a move.
So I can imagine that all of this turbulence and violence make Nicky paranoid from the get-go and that he could never fully trust anybody else in Philly... which is why he made Phil his underboss... he thought he would be 100% loyal because they were blood.
But obviously there’s a thin line between justifiable paranoia and devolving into being a total homicidal nut like Gaspipe. And things quickly spun out of control.
I’m not defending that scumbag at all, just thinking about why Scarfo was the way he was.
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Re: Scarfo FBI File Released
[Re: streetbossliborio]
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11/16/18 08:19 AM
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Dead end job no way of it being a success in the 80s as boss of philly. If he was too lenient he’s dead as history showed with the predecessors. Way too many egos and killers on the street at this time period. And Sal may of gone for the crown, maybe scarfo was right (within the mob life) to make a move. Sal was clearly a future number 1 just a matter of time,,,
So to conclude any way scarfo would’ve moved he would’ve been seen as a failure. Either dead or in jail as a killer boss. General consensus is he was a bad boss which I think is BS. He just chose a doomed crown. And in a way he did restore orders among the animals he was in charge of. Nobody would dare make a move against him True and he had a couple reasons to take out Salvie before it got out of hand using Chuckie as one of the reasons....but you never know Sal May have followed the rules but in that life you never know. And yes these guys are not just cut throat they are killers and you never know ..... Nick did have a couple guys he could of left underboss but he wanted blood .... and no doubt he killed Salvie for Phil and his future....I think Phil would of did his time if the entire family did not go down....he knew his kid had nothing because Philly guys would of torturerd him because of Nick knocking down Chuckie and Yogi ....he really had no choice if he wanted his kid to have a chance. And yes they are all killers .
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Re: Scarfo FBI File Released
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11/16/18 10:33 PM
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his consif monte was killed quickly by harry riccobene crew. im on the fence as to if harry was a informant some guy write a whole blog on rats back then and 1 guy was i forgot name rocco scafidi or a brother. related to that horse head guy. He never testified.... he was a informant the info is out there ....I am not a researcher not even close but it’s out there and it’s not much be he was the old dry snitch back in the day .....one of these guys here will find the fbi report and there is more then one. But it was not what you are thinking it never lead to guys going away it was information to Feds about hierarchy and other families in Pennsylvania and western NY. Way before anyone was flipping he was getting favors or even a bust or two thrown out .
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Re: Scarfo FBI File Released
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11/17/18 12:21 AM
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Harry Riccobene was a snitch? Did I hear that right? I never heard that before.
From hearing him talk I get the impression he could have written a very interesting book with someone like George Anastasia, or had an interesting sit down interview with someone.
He strikes me as a somewhat eloquent guy who would have an interesting perspective on things, and of course he led a very interesting life, even for a mobster.
http://mafiahistory.us/rattrap/philadelphiainf.html Thanks for posting
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Re: Scarfo FBI File Released
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11/17/18 01:17 AM
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Harry Riccobene was a snitch? Did I hear that right? I never heard that before.
From hearing him talk I get the impression he could have written a very interesting book with someone like George Anastasia, or had an interesting sit down interview with someone.
He strikes me as a somewhat eloquent guy who would have an interesting perspective on things, and of course he led a very interesting life, even for a mobster.
http://mafiahistory.us/rattrap/philadelphiainf.html Wow, I have never seen this. Thanks.
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Re: Scarfo FBI File Released
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11/18/18 10:06 AM
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Harry Riccobene was a snitch? Did I hear that right? I never heard that before.
From hearing him talk I get the impression he could have written a very interesting book with someone like George Anastasia, or had an interesting sit down interview with someone.
He strikes me as a somewhat eloquent guy who would have an interesting perspective on things, and of course he led a very interesting life, even for a mobster.
http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=886473Very interesting. Thank you. I threw up a little in my throat when I found out he had a 21 year old girlfriend when he was in his early seventies.
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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