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Ronald Giallanzo sentenced to 14 years #950349
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Bonanno acting capo ronald gillanzo got slammed today with a 14 year sentence- https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...gets-14-years-for-loan-shark-scheme/amp/

Re: Ronald Giallanzo sentenced to 14 years [Re: Zero6245] #950361
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dam he got broke off. shit for laon sharking they must have thought he killed someone an got away with it thats servere

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with good time its 12 yrs people get way less for murder sometimes.

Re: Ronald Giallanzo sentenced to 14 years [Re: Zero6245] #950365
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it will probaly get appealed the judge will resetence him a feew less

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he was expecting 7 8 got double

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guess you cant just go around beating people till they shit all over themselves well you scream for ya doe

Re: Ronald Giallanzo sentenced to 14 years [Re: Zero6245] #950368
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As part of the sentence, Giallanzo was also forced to forfeit $1.25 million and sell the Howard Beach mansion he built with his ill-gotten gains. He also owes $268,000 in restitution to five loansharking victims.

The sprawling home is still on the market, Macedonio told reporters, saying the proceeds from the home would cover restitution in addition to forfeiture.


What's his day job? How do these people prove their income?


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Re: Ronald Giallanzo sentenced to 14 years [Re: Zero6245] #950369
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Most people who are about to be shot to death will end up shitting themselves. Most mobsters who were shot to death probably shit themselves. Violent death isn't glamorous, no matter how much movies like Scarface or Godfather portray it to be.

You know in mortuaries, after you die, they stick cotton up your ass to prevent leakage? Reminds me of when you cook goose for Christmas and a little shit is coming out of the goose's ass.

Hell, remember The Sopranos when Gene hangs himself? Watch carefully. He pisses himself.

Basically, if you're planning on dying, make sure you've taken a dump and peed beforehand.


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Re: Ronald Giallanzo sentenced to 14 years [Re: pmac] #950381
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The indictment against ronnie g did include charges of attempted murder. Not that surprised he got a long sentence.

Re: Ronald Giallanzo sentenced to 14 years [Re: Moe_Tilden] #950385
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As part of the sentence, Giallanzo was also forced to forfeit $1.25 million and sell the Howard Beach mansion he built with his ill-gotten gains. He also owes $268,000 in restitution to five loansharking victims.

The sprawling home is still on the market, Macedonio told reporters, saying the proceeds from the home would cover restitution in addition to forfeiture.



He was breaking legs from twenty years,for sure had money hidden in some place,he was also an acting capo and in the article is said that had his crew so more money.For me the tears was fake.He is Asaro's nephew so if he growed in the mafia,he will do his time without flip.

Re: Ronald Giallanzo sentenced to 14 years [Re: Zero6245] #950387
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This is America, though. You must declare everything. You can't beat the tax man. I mean, if you win the lottery, you declare it. You get an inheritance, you declare it. This guy, God knows what he actually does for a living, is living in a mansion? What the fuck, like? With how pernickety the government is about eating away at the face value of people's earnings I'm surprised people like Giallanza can get away with this. Yes, he has money squirreled away, I get this, but it can't be as simple as doing that, CAN IT?

I mean look at guys like Vincent Gigante, Neil Dellacroce or even John Gotti. On the surface of it, none of them were living beyond their means. (Gotti's cross-eyed son is another matter)


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Re: Ronald Giallanzo sentenced to 14 years [Re: Zero6245] #950388
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Originally Posted by Zero6245
The indictment against ronnie g did include charges of attempted murder. Not that surprised he got a long sentence.


You experience "justice" through the prism of the court system in countries like Ireland, you won't be long appreciating the sentences people like Giallanza get.


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Re: Ronald Giallanzo sentenced to 14 years [Re: Moe_Tilden] #950405
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I dont rly agree with the sentence. When ronnie gets out he’ll be institutionalized. And then go back to a life of crime. This country has such a fuckin stupid prison system. The courts throw guys in a shitty environment with violent gangs for a decade, and then expect ex cons to live a law abiding life. Makes no sense.

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Originally Posted by Zero6245
I dont rly agree with the sentence. When ronnie gets out he’ll be institutionalized. And then go back to a life of crime. This country has such a fuckin stupid prison system. The courts throw guys in a shitty environment with violent gangs for a decade, and then expect ex cons to live a law abiding life. Makes no sense.


It's Federal Prison..I feel bad for his Wife and Kids...He came out a few years ago..Bad Cycle.

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Originally Posted by Zero6245
I dont rly agree with the sentence. When ronnie gets out he’ll be institutionalized. And then go back to a life of crime. This country has such a fuckin stupid prison system. The courts throw guys in a shitty environment with violent gangs for a decade, and then expect ex cons to live a law abiding life. Makes no sense.


Save your sympathy for the guys who deserve it.

https://nypost.com/2018/07/31/mobster-who-claims-jail-food-is-killing-him-scarfs-down-hot-dog/

These guys are beyond help. They're grown men. We're talking about people who are in their 40's, 50's and 60's and whose daughters have been put through school and had luxurious sweet 16's, weddings and christenings with the proceeds of other people's blood, tears and misery.

You mention the word institutionalized. It's not suburban middle aged mafia members who've spent their entire lives gaming the system who've been institutionalized. Let's face it. It's the black kids living in low income families with no older role models who don't stand a chance.


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Re: Ronald Giallanzo sentenced to 14 years [Re: Moe_Tilden] #950430
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
[quote=Zero6245]I dont rly agree with the sentence. When ronnie gets out he’ll be institutionalized. And then go back to a life of crime. This country has such a fuckin stupid prison system. The courts throw guys in a shitty environment with violent gangs for a decade, and then expect ex cons to live a law abiding life. Makes no sense.


Save your sympathy for the guys who deserve it.

https://nypost.com/2018/07/31/mobster-who-claims-jail-food-is-killing-him-scarfs-down-hot-dog/

These guys are beyond help. They're grown men. We're talking about people who are in their 40's, 50's and 60's and whose daughters have been put through school and had luxurious sweet 16's, weddings and christenings with the proceeds of other people's blood, tears and misery.

You mention the word institutionalized. It's not suburban middle aged mafia members who've spent their entire lives gaming the system who've been institutionalized. Let's face it. It's the black kids living in low income families with no older role models who don't stand a chance.


Oh please! Now you are fake caring a damn about Black kids to make your lame points, whatever they are.

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Originally Posted by Zero6245
I dont rly agree with the sentence. When ronnie gets out he’ll be institutionalized. And then go back to a life of crime. This country has such a fuckin stupid prison system. The courts throw guys in a shitty environment with violent gangs for a decade, and then expect ex cons to live a law abiding life. Makes no sense.




The truth, which the Mo Tilden's of the world are afraid of people hearing.

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What does a low income black kid have to do anything? No role models?? I guess if they stopped having babies out of wedlock more black kids wouldnt become poor and would also have role models. Who’s fault is that??? Not mine and not yours.

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Originally Posted by Aces
What does a low income black kid have to do anything? No role models?? I guess if they stopped having babies out of wedlock more black kids wouldnt become poor and would also have role models. Who’s fault is that??? Not mine and not yours.


He's grasping for straws, they have nothing to do with it.

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Thanks for the news Zero6245. No sympathy. He knew what he was getting into.

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Originally Posted by MightyDR
Thanks for the news Zero6245. No sympathy. He knew what he was getting into.



he beat only one person, and that was a man refusing to pay back money. The borrower should have known what would happen. Most of the charges were him making threats. He also apparently volenterred at ground zero, and had a legitimate source of income all these years. The senate for what amount to assault is way over what it should be.

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Borrower LOL. You would swear he went to a bank and not a criminal. Jace, you don't honestly think he paid for that mansion with a legitimate source of income, so don't play dumb.

And I don't "care" about black kids. I have no dog in this race. A criminal is a criminal. I'm just saying 47 year old mobsters are beyond reforming so don't bring up the word "institutionalized" to facetiously describe them.

They can afford the best lawyers with their blood money, which 18 year old black kids from the projects can't, so it's not comparing apples with apples.


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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
Borrower LOL. You would swear he went to a bank and not a criminal. Jace, you don't honestly think he paid for that mansion with a legitimate source of income, so don't play dumb.

And I don't "care" about black kids. I have no dog in this race. A criminal is a criminal. I'm just saying 47 year old mobsters are beyond reforming so don't bring up the word "institutionalized" to facetiously describe them.

They can afford the best lawyers with their blood money, which 18 year old black kids from the projects can't, so it's not comparing apples with apples.




"Borrower LOL. "


ok,, what do you call him he borrowed and would not pay.

As for a job,

He had to have had one, maybe someone here knows if they followed the case more than either of us. If he didn't they would have gotten him on more charges and seized the house earlier. And again, you pull the lame "Black kids can't get attorney..." B.S. Knock off the politics, leave that out of this.

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Re: Ronald Giallanzo sentenced to 14 years [Re: Zero6245] #950457
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Well, look no further than John Gotti. What did he gainfully do to afford lawyers like Cutler and Shargel? Work as a clerk in a fishing bait shop, something like that?

And stop blaming the victim here. Loansharking and extortion are illegal.

And re: your last paragraph. It's perfectly relevant and it puts into perspective calling a recidivist career criminal like Giallanza's sentence harsh when it isn't anything of the sort.

He, and people like him, are a plague on society. And I cannot sanction your defense of people like them, while hypocritically laying all the blame of society's ills on others.


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What does a low income black kid have to do anything? No role models?? I guess if they stopped having babies out of wedlock more black kids wouldnt become poor and would also have role models. Who’s fault is that??? Not mine and not yours.


He's been warned against making racist statements. He didn't heed those warnings. He's gone now. Good riddance.


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Thanks for the news Zero6245. No sympathy. He knew what he was getting into.



he beat only one person, and that was a man refusing to pay back money. The borrower should have known what would happen. Most of the charges were him making threats. He also apparently volenterred at ground zero, and had a legitimate source of income all these years. The senate for what amount to assault is way over what it should be.


I hear what you're saying, but he still made a choice to do it. As well as choosing to be a mobster, which means receiving a harsh sentence. For example, Benny Eggs got more time than him for rigging window replacement bids.

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My statement didnt rly apply to ronnie g. My statement would more apply to a guy goin away to prison for his first time. In my opinion prisons should try to rehabilitate first time offenders if they aren’t doin a life sentence. Id blame the horrible environment in prisons on the correctional officers that pretty much let gangs run the prisons.Throwin a guy in an environment full of violent gangs will not lead to anything good. Anyway, i dont wanna get too off topic so thats all i gotta say on the prison system topic.

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Originally Posted by Zero6245
My statement didnt rly apply to ronnie g. My statement would more apply to a guy goin away to prison for his first time. In my opinion prisons should try to rehabilitate first time offenders if they aren’t doin a life sentence. Id blame the horrible environment in prisons on the correctional officers that pretty much let gangs run the prisons.Throwin a guy in an environment full of violent gangs will not lead to anything good. Anyway, i dont wanna get too off topic so thats all i gotta say on the prison system topic.


Thank you, I missed that point at first.

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@zero This is certainly not Ronnie G’s first stretch in prison, he’s been in and out of prison for most of this century. The charges in his indictment allege that he effectively ran his loansharking ring from behind bars.

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i think he was a mechanic. think these dudes have legit jobs. evev his uncle asaro had a fence company before he was like 80yrs old and indicted for the heist

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