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Toodoped: I said I creep and I crawl and I creep and I crawl And I creep and I crawl creep creep lol
Toodoped: Lots of "amnesia"...some people are posting the same stuff over and over, and every time they are happy like small kids lol
Toodoped: a small reminder...screw all paywalls!
Toodoped: Anyone heard from @BigTuna? He is absent for quite some time...I hope is ok
Toodoped: Any idiot can face a crisis - it's day to day living that wears you out.
Toodoped: Thanks buddy! We should continue fighting against these lying paying sites and to protect everyone on this forum, especially the younger generation or posters.
Toodoped: these days lots of people that I know lost their families and everything they had because its legit and even youngsters can chip in
Toodoped: Same as the mob paying sites...ppl pay for "Disneyland" and wiki mob stuff, something which they can find it on their own with a simple google search
VanillaLimeCoke: Lousy school violence these days. Not even a 6th of the way through September and we've already had a psychotic violent school shooting.
Toodoped: Word. Few days ago, over here, they caught one teenager with a gun and more than 60 bullets, while going to school. I wonder what was his plan ?!
Toodoped: Damn....the retard slowly became a stalker and he's following me whenever I make a post so he can bump up his own $0,5 "projects" lol lol "IT" is finished and I love it lol
Toodoped: still talking to yourself, a stupido?! lol lol
Toodoped: hahahahahaha I can do it all day long
Toodoped: Cant believe this shit...im off to find some real pussy
Toodoped: aaaaand....the retarded stalker is back again
Toodoped: For those who enjoyed the "TD's Free Outfit Articles 2023/24" thread, well thanks to @TB for making it a sticky on the first page in the OC forum so everyone can enjoy it. Again, I want to personally say thanks to TB, JGeoff and the whole GBB forum. Salut
VanillaLimeCoke: I can’t take it anymore. Everything has gotta change. Or at least a lot.
Toodoped: Screw the world bro...the main thing today is to take care of you and yours.
VanillaLimeCoke: I’m hoping and praying that 2025 will be so much better. …. for real …. Too
Giacomo_Vacari: Damn, he is posting the same things over and over, nothing new. Watch out the flu is bad this year. January 20th Trump gets sworn in, and hopefully turn things around.
VanillaLimeCoke: Yeah, but they’re already planning things so he can’t turn them around
VanillaLimeCoke: Biden’s pardened over 8000 people, most of which were issued in the last 2-3 months
hoodlum: Yes, most likely 2 piss off that crybaby & compulsive liar now sadly in office.
Jason1969: Hey! After applying months ago, I finally got my button and was accepted as a member!
NYMafia: Just when I thought I was out…they pull me back in!
hoodlum: My 15 yr. old grandson who thinks his generation invented all got into a small debate.....I asked him 2 explain the old (Archie Bunkeresque) tale..."You don't buy beer,,,,You rent it..Needless 2 say , he was dumfounded ....stupid little fuck...
NYMafia: Hey! Paisan. Thatsa Somma Spicy Meeta Balla U Gotta Da, Kid!
NYMafia: ...Take Alka-Seltzer for fast relief
NYMafia: It’s all about the rhythm, gotta have rhythm.
VanillaLimeCoke: Let us take a moment to remember the fallen ones for this Memorial Day Weekend
NYMafia: It you’re playing a game of poker and you look around the table and can’t tell who the sucker is...it’s you.
NYMafia: Thank you, VanillaLimeCoke.
NYMafia: "There's a sucker born every minute..and two to take him. ~ P.T. Barnum
NYMafia: Are you suffering from diarrhea? Are you shitting your pants again? Then take Imodium for fast relief....This has been a public service message.
NYMafia: Always! Not sure some others can say the same. Thats why I mentioned the Imodium. LOL.
NYMafia: Heartburn and indigestion acting up again? Take Pepto-Bismol for fast relief….This has been another public service message.
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Re: Most Underrated/Overrated Bosses
[Re: kingoflittlenewyork]
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08/15/18 08:58 AM
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BillyBrizzi
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Most over hyped/rated boss EVER is Lucky by far. 4-5 years on the street as boss. Credited for Maranzano:s creation. BLASPHEMY!!! If it was up to me your ass would be banned for LIFE  All kidding aside, while I agree with you that one of the most persistent errors in the history about the mafia is that Lucky created the structure, it's crazy that this gets repeated over and over in almost all books about the history of the mob.. That being said, apart from this it was Lucky Luciano that implemented the business like approach for the Cosa Nostra, a mirror image of capitalism and I'm convinced that this was the reason why it became this formidable organization that dominated organized crime in the US and parts of Canada for over 50 years..
FORTIS FORTUNA IUVAT
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Re: Most Underrated/Overrated Bosses
[Re: BillyBrizzi]
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08/15/18 10:43 AM
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Friend_of_Henry
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Overrated John Gotti /Charles "Lucky" Luciano
Underrated John LaRocca Totally agree - Always good to see another interested in Pittsburgh. John was laid back and "It was only business" all the time. Did you also know John LaRocca personally FoH? I knew you knew Michael Genovese very good, but didn't know about LaRocca. And I agree that this man was a very underrated boss: he had a very long tenure, made a lot of money in Cuba with the elite of the elite in mob land and most importantly he died in his own bed of natural causes. But when I think of it, so did his successor Michael Genovese and to be honest it's actually way more impressive in his case because he managed to avoid jail in the post-RICO era, as one of the only bosses in the 80's and 90's. Plus, he supposedly oversaw the most lucrative period in the Pittsburgh family's history, with huge amounts of money made by drug dealing that had the blessing of Genovese allegedly.. If I stated some incorrect facts, don't be afraid to school my ignorant Dutch ass pal  As usual, you're right on point. I only met John once with Henry and had the pleasure of shaking his hand. Nothing like the relationship I had with Michael.
"Never walk in a room that you don't know how to get out of"- Henry Zottola
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Re: Most Underrated/Overrated Bosses
[Re: BillyBrizzi]
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08/15/18 12:50 PM
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kingoflittlenewyork
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Most over hyped/rated boss EVER is Lucky by far. 4-5 years on the street as boss. Credited for Maranzano:s creation. BLASPHEMY!!! If it was up to me your ass would be banned for LIFE  All kidding aside, while I agree with you that one of the most persistent errors in the history about the mafia is that Lucky created the structure, it's crazy that this gets repeated over and over in almost all books about the history of the mob.. That being said, apart from this it was Lucky Luciano that implemented the business like approach for the Cosa Nostra, a mirror image of capitalism and I'm convinced that this was the reason why it became this formidable organization that dominated organized crime in the US and parts of Canada for over 50 years.. And what proof do you have of this? Other than the fact it's been repeat over and over....
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Re: Most Underrated/Overrated Bosses
[Re: kingoflittlenewyork]
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08/15/18 01:39 PM
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BillyBrizzi
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And what proof do you have of this? Other than the fact it's been repeat over and over....
What do you mean? I agreed with your statement that Luciano wasn't responsible for the modern structure of CN, but rather Maranzano.. If you're talking about what proof I have for the assertion that Luciano implemented a businesslike approach for Cosa Nostra, a mirror image of capitalism. This was confirmed by the majority of mafia experts like Selwyn Raab, Jerry Capeci and Ovid DeMaris. The man got rid of the Capi dei Capi title and created a power sharing institution called The Commission. Now I now that some kind of Roundtable similar to it existed in one form or another years before, called the General Assembly, but it was very ineffectual and was always subservient to Capo dei Capi like Morello, d'Aquila and Masseria. Luciano also put making money first and traditions and prejudices second. Old school Sicilians didn't like or even flat out refused to work with Jews like Meyer Lansky, Ben Siegel and Lepke Buchhalter. Luciano also got rid of this kind of backwards thinking. I don't care if you don't believe me, because if you can't be convinced by a man like Selwyn Raab about the genius of Salvatore ''Charlie Lucky Luciano'' Lucania, no one will..
FORTIS FORTUNA IUVAT
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Re: Most Underrated/Overrated Bosses
[Re: kingoflittlenewyork]
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08/15/18 03:45 PM
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TonyG
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Raab had no new sources for the 5 Families book, simply old news articles. A repeat of old information. New sources? Who is still alive from the Luciano era? Joe Bonanno's book described how Luciano changed things after Maranzano. Valachi testified to it, although he was fed info by the Feds. There are so many sources I am surprised this is in debate. Moving from a dictatorship (i.e. boss of bosses) to a congress (i.e. commission) was a solid move in my opinion. To each their own I suppose. Selwyn Raab wrote many of the "old" news articles that were memorialized in 5 Families. One of my favorite LCN reporters.
Best way to catch the smart ones? Get an idiot working for them.
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Re: Most Underrated/Overrated Bosses
[Re: TonyG]
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08/15/18 04:31 PM
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kingoflittlenewyork
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Raab had no new sources for the 5 Families book, simply old news articles. A repeat of old information. New sources? Who is still alive from the Luciano era? My point exactly. Lucky is what got me into oc along with Capone. The more and more I've truly learned about him the more of a fairy tale I believe him to be. I'm not saying it didn't happen that way only that we will never truly know. These things that have been stated as facts year after year about him kill me. And then each one of us choose to believe what is true and what's not. I just think it was more of a team effort than one man. Sorry if I detailed fellas.
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