i cant find the old ny news article but for along time we never could confirm on this board if senter an testa were made we found out ofiicaly from little al they were inductung in the same ceromony as little als son joey. 1987. by vic n gas. ohhh the old article was about senter having a union no show job weinto the late 90tys i forgot what year but for almost a decade sitting in prison he was on a payroll probaly making a good check.