It's funny how all these senior members of the forums come to bud in on this debate, when it's for the most part a decent one, and not a sh@t show. These guys are helping to keep this site alive and provide an entertaining back and forth debate. I agree there's a little hostility that should be laid off on but it's really not out of control. Why don't you guys put some input on the discussion Instead of just criticizing other members for having a good discussion.