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Re: Dutch gangs [Re: Hollander] #931394
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Yeah 11.5 tons is way too much for the dutch market alone, the demand must come from other countries, most likely UK or German market.


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Hey Billy, pretty good comment by this guy.

Netherlands Narcostate and the Hypocrisy
PUBLISHED ON SATURDAY MARCH 3, 2018 14:03

As a result of the reports about "The Netherlands Narcostate" and the wish of the Dutch criminal investigation department for more millions to combat drug trafficking, NRC columnist Folkert Jensma is worried . He finds it hypocrisy and blabla.

Politicians and police like to talk about 'undermining' crime, which in Brabant controls Mexican neighborhoods, and about the high number of liquidations.

Jensma:

(...) can we stop the ruin of rhetoric about drug crime, causing the Netherlands to 'deteriorate'? By which I do not put the liquidations or the corruption of working class areas by the cultivation of cannabis into perspective. I take that seriously - there has been a professional, successful international drug sector in the Netherlands that handles hundreds of millions. And no, that is not good for the Netherlands. (...)

However, this thriving cannabis, ecstasy, amphetamine and cocaine sector also has a cause. And that is that we find the consumption of those products great. We do not care. Drugs are not seen socially as an abuse but as a stimulant, the consumption of which is widely tolerated. When Nieuwsuurvorige week portrayed the angry men of the detective, Spuiten & Slikken was on the other channel, a publicly funded lifestyle / consumer program in which fresh young people tell us what pills x or y do to you. So do not make me laugh. The Netherlands Narcostate is the same as the Netherlands Fiscal Paradise.

It fits well with us. (...) We think that's all fine: the cash register is ringing. Spraying and swallowing, blowing and earning, XTC and Airbnb, liquidations and dance festivals - it's one big mess. We must therefore stop indignant peering through a straw to organized crime. We do it ourselves. And it does not interest us. Otherwise, the courts in Brabant had already had drug chambers, the Public Prosecution Service tripled its sentence, the police sent a brigade of detectives to the south, Amsterdam prohibited the sale of cannabis to foreigners (as elsewhere) and only control officials arrived at the Red Light District. . For their work then.

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Re: Dutch gangs [Re: Hollander] #933055
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On Monday Astrid Holleeder has stated under oath before the court of Amsterdam that she recently found recordings of conversations with Willem Holleeder. According to her they have surfaced after 'two moves'. It involves fifteen conversations.
Astrid Holleeder is known to have made many recordings of conversations with her brother in the two years before her brother was arrested in December 2014. Last spring, during a questioning with the examining magistrate, the question was raised as to whether there were any more. She did not answer at that time. The Public Prosecution Service also announced that after informing Astrid Holleeder it appeared that there was nothing left. Astrid Holleeder said it was possible to consider that there were more conversations.
One of the conversations would tell how Holleeder was talking with Astrid about Holleeder's fear that Dino Soerel would make statements about him. The Public Prosecution Service thinks that Soerel and Holleeder have committed murders together. The question why she - as a lawyer - lost sight of these apparently high-profile tapes is getting bigger.


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Re: Dutch gangs [Re: Hollander] #933357
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there are any dutch gangs in the us ?

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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
there are any dutch gangs in the us ?


Toodoped wrote about the Dutch in Chicago I can imagine there were also a few in early New York. After all the city was founded by the Dutch.

By the late 1950�s, 90% of the hauling firms in the Windy City were controlled by the Dutch population which became know as the �Dutch Mafia�. They were not some bloodthirsty criminal organization but the thing was that they kept the business among their own people. Some sources say that back in the old days the Dutchmen had the garbage business in their blood and they controlled it since the late 1920�s. During that period, the Dutch scavengers formed an association to regulate the whole business and also eliminate any possible competition, which was known as the West Side Garbage Association. The members decided not to compete with each other and traded accounts to concentrate their routes for greater efficiency and by the 1959, the association changed its name to Chicago and Suburban Refuse Disposal Association. Known Dutch families such as the Huizengas or the Van Tholens controlled 90% of the garbage business in Chicago and profited with over 20 million dollars a year. I believe that the Dutch control over the waste business was one of the reasons on which the Outfit never had the same satisfaction. But that didn�t last long because the lucrative idea lured the Outfit like a shark following the smell of blood, but in this case it was the smell of cash.


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so i'm guessing there are some dutch gangsters in the us, but maybe not in group\gang
or maybe some who are associate with the lcn families

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In the Netherlands, emigrants to the US and Canada had a bad name for a long time. With the word 'emigrant', many nineteenth-century people thought of a half-criminal who had no sense of goodness and no grain of patriotism.
The Dutch also had a sense of superiority lol.


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Ohh i get it
So mostly in netherlands are dutch gang ? Am i right ?

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Originally Posted by MeyerLansky
Ohh i get it
So mostly in netherlands are dutch gang ? Am i right ?


NL, Belgium, Germany, UK and Spain with some outposts in Latin America.


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Thank you for the info !
And thank you for the great stuff you and billy always share here ( i assume billy is dutch too wink

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Yeah Billy is also a cheesehead. grin


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Another day in court.

The recorded conversation with Willem Holleeder would show that Sjaak Burger controlled the motor, which was used in the murder of Heineken kidnapper Cor van Hout and Robert ter Haak. Holleeder confessed that according to his sister in one of the many recorded conversations. The other rider of the motor would be Jesse Remmers, who is sentenced to life imprisonment in the passage process. According to the OM, Willem Holleeder is the client of the murder.

Sjaak Burger was convicted in the appeal proceedings to 5.5 years. He was shot in his head in Panama City in January 2015, exactly twelve years after the murder of Cor van Hout, but survived the attack.


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Sjaak Burger arrested for the double murder.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
Yeah Billy is also a cheesehead. grin


Damn' straight, Cheesehead 4 Life!!! Dutch Pride Forever smile

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The man who was liquidated on Thursday night in the Piet Mondriaanstraat in Amsterdam is the 46-year-old criminal Goran Tasic from former Yugoslavia. It seems to be a settlement in the drug environment, Het Parool reports. Tasic has no record here but is known in Sweden where he lived for years.


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More on the guy shot dead in A'dam.

The Serbian gangster would have been involved in armed conflicts in his native country. From the many publications that can be found about him, a picture emerges that he at least invested in a football club, Vranje Futbalski Club.
The Serb appears to have built up a considerable criminal record. Tasic was said to have been involved in a liquidation attempt on a certain Dragoljub Djordjevic, who, however, remained unharmed during a shootout. An older article mentions an extortion attempt by Tasic of one Radoslav Mojsilović. In this case, Tasic would have tried to strip his victim eight million dinars. Tasic would have been in custody for 16 months.
In 2003 Tasic would have attempted a murder on one Zoran Popovic nicknamed 'Popa', and in Belgrade several bullets were fired at his target. Hereafter, Tasic would have been detained for two years.


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It was reported that Burger, when he was shot in '15, would have been in Panama in connection with cocaine trafficking, in which the Rotterdam-based mob boss Henk Ebben and his son would have been involved.
One of the wildest rumors circulating in the Amsterdam underworld is that justice has picked up the weak Burger in order to let him 'flip' into a crown witness.


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The identity of the mysterious ''Omniscient'' (Allesweter) is finally known. According to Panorama, Crimesite.nl and Elsevier it's Maruf 'Paja' M., longtime high level member of the Joego-Maffia. He allegedly ran a kind of employment agency in Holland for career criminals from the Balkans.

https://www.crimesite.nl/dit-is-de-allesweter/

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Originally Posted by Hollander
More on the guy shot dead in A'dam.

The Serbian gangster would have been involved in armed conflicts in his native country. From the many publications that can be found about him, a picture emerges that he at least invested in a football club, Vranje Futbalski Club.
The Serb appears to have built up a considerable criminal record. Tasic was said to have been involved in a liquidation attempt on a certain Dragoljub Djordjevic, who, however, remained unharmed during a shootout. An older article mentions an extortion attempt by Tasic of one Radoslav Mojsilović. In this case, Tasic would have tried to strip his victim eight million dinars. Tasic would have been in custody for 16 months.
In 2003 Tasic would have attempted a murder on one Zoran Popovic nicknamed 'Popa', and in Belgrade several bullets were fired at his target. Hereafter, Tasic would have been detained for two years.


Here in Serbia in last few years ,he was legal,he was considered businessman.He was also financier of main political party in his city. He did 3 years in 2011 for attempted murder on Zoran Popovic.He was also one of the shooters that tried to kill Aleksandar Dimitrijevic back in 2009.

But in Amsterdam, he was deep in drug business

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Re: Dutch gangs [Re: BillyBrizzi] #934197
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Originally Posted by BillyBrizzi
The identity of the mysterious ''Omniscient'' (Allesweter) is finally known. According to Panorama, Crimesite.nl and Elsevier it's Maruf 'Paja' M., longtime high level member of the Joego-Maffia. He allegedly ran a kind of employment agency in Holland for career criminals from the Balkans.

https://www.crimesite.nl/dit-is-de-allesweter/


Haha..he is based in The Hague. Paja started his career with shell games (balletje-balletje).

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Thursday afternoon the 51-year-old Henk Baum was shot dead along the Rijksweg in Schaijk. The car in which the victim was found was a Porsche Panamera. Baum, who lived at the Loosven 'traveller' camp in Nistelrode, is known by the police. In 2014 a raid was made at his car wreck in Oss. There were weapons and ammunition found. He was also detained three years ago for threatening an alderman.


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Joca Amsterdam might get released for few hours today,his father passed away 2 days ago,today is funeral,judge might let him.


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Originally Posted by Hollander


That new crown witness for the government, Nabil B., can really hurt this guy..

I wonder if this pentito, will perhaps create a domino effect and cause more guys to flip. He's the first turncoat from the Mocro-Mafia and you know the Dutch saying; when one sheep is over the dam, more will follow wink

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The police and Public Prosecutor prevented a convicted murderer from escaping while traveling to or from the court in Amsterdam, the police said in a statement. The murderer was sentenced to 15 years in prison for the shooting of Souhail Laachir, at a dance party at the Maritime Museum. According to the police, there was a plan to liberate I. during his transport for his appeal.

The appeal of Surailie I. would serve in Amsterdam tomorrow. According to the police, the preparations for the escape would have been at an advanced stage. In the prison where I. is stuck, various mobile phones were found that had been thrown over the wall. The police suspect that they were meant for I.

Souhail Laachir, aka De Lange, was shot in May 2013 on a crowded dance floor with 6 bullets. The Public Prosecutor's Office demanded 25 years against Surailie I. for murder. The court sentenced 15 years in prison for manslaughter. Souhail Laachir was considered the accountant of Benaouf A. For the latter, an escape attempt was also thwarted.

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They killed the brother of crown witness, Nabil Bakkali, this morning:

https://nltimes.nl/2018/03/29/key-witness-brother-assassinated-amsterdam

Fuckin animals, the man was a civilian, had nothing to do with organized crime.. SMH

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There is so much at stake it's like a drug cartel.


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Originally Posted by Hollander
There is so much at stake it's like a drug cartel.


The fact that they would go this far, killing an innocent family member, is a clear sign that they are scared shitless of that crown witness..


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Law enforcement isn't messing around this time!!! Normally it takes weeks for DNA results to come back, but like I said before these guys crossed a line and the full wrath of the entire government is coming down on them..

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archiv...hunt-for-crown-witnesss-brothers-killer/


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