I don't think I re-hashed this I seen Roosters posts and Giacomo's posts and they seem packed with good solid information.
Just to note, there is no evidence to either of those user's posts. I am not saying explicitly that it is not true, just that there is no evidence to it.
Also, the argument on the other thread starting with a discussion about defunct families. I mentioned that Buffalo, along with many other families, was not thought to be an active family, and Rooster called me "delusional"