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Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers [Re: alexandarns] #930238
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Originally Posted by alexandarns
Even if it was 200 years from the civil rights act, blacks would still be jobless, lazy, shooting each others, acting like animals and living in ghetto's. Deal with it.


Oh, you're not a racist at all, are you?


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Not if you lived in the neighbourhood Oak, try to keep up. Why would I need source material for something as obvious as that. Don't know why are you acting like you don't know what I'm talking about, but have it your way. Go take a walk around Bed stay and let as know how it turned out pal.
No I'm not a racist, I don't care about it just stating my opinion.

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How do you know what Brownsville was like in the old days, other than watching the first 20 minutes of Goodfellas?


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Actually my mothers fam is from Brooklyn, grandfather born in Ocean hill. I've said it a 100 times. Not to mention I read like a 100 reports and stories on the matter. How do you know it wasn't like that, other than being blinded by liberal bull?

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Originally Posted by alexandarns

Of course buddy, we talk all the time. I can't dunk or sing like them, not even close. But you don't hear me putting blame on black folks for stealing all the talent. It's just the way thing are.

No need for anymore name calling, I haven't insulted you once. So lets keep it friendly, okey?

You're right, no need for that. However I'm simply trying to point out that whether you know it or not, you possess racist tendencies. There are plenty of black people that are not jobless, lazy, criminals, etc. And there are plenty of white people that are. It depends on the person, not the race. Most of it has to do with poverty, a state that black people were intentionally kept in for generations. We're talking about a system of racism that didn't even let black people vote in many states until relatively very recently. That's something the Irish, Italians, Jews, Polish, etc. never had to deal with, along with many other prejudices simply because they were white.

Take for instance your personal views on black people, that they're lazy, jobless, etc. You're gonna pass those views down to your own children who will in turn grow up viewing black people as inferior. You don't think that happens among millions of families in America? It's why racism is ingrained in our society. You can spend all day reading vile comments about black people from the same people who swear they're not racist. They can't see the forest through the trees so to speak.

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers [Re: alexandarns] #930248
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Originally Posted by alexandarns
Actually my mothers fam is from Brooklyn, grandfather born in Ocean hill. I've said it a 100 times. Not to mention I read like a 100 reports and stories on the matter. How do you know it wasn't like that, other than being blinded by liberal bull?


But you've admittedly never been there, nor were you even alive in the era you're romanticizing. Your entire argument on this thread is based on what you saw in a movie. And you're calling liberals unrealistic?

Let me guess, you know what World War 2 was like, because you saw Saving Private Ryan.


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Nor were you bro, the hell is wrong with you? My grandfather grow up there as were a bunch of my relatives. It dosen't get closer than that, also there are writen books comering the two periods. I was personally in NYC for 4 years.. that beats you by a hundred, don't know what your point is at all. What movie? The hell is wrong with you Oak...

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Yeah, you told me about your grandfather. What does he have to do with you? You have no experience with Brownsville. My Grandfather lived in Chicago. You don't see me going around talking about what it was like in The Patch during Accardo's day.

Also, none of your relatives are from Brownsville. You thought of Brownsville because of Goodfellas, and you know it. Your expertise on Brownsville and how safe the old mob neighborhoods were comes from a movie.


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Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers [Re: alexandarns] #930261
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Originally Posted by alexandarns
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you are all fighting a lost cause, blacks tend to act like animals more than any other race even the latino race. They didnt get out of the ghettos like any other ethnic group like the jews, irish or italians..They stay and pillage their own neighbourhoods like rabies dogs even after 150 years of freedom and all that has been done for the emantipation of blacks. Obama would never have been president if he wasnt half white, and thats a fact.


You do realized that majority of blacks don't live in the ghetto , Carry themselves like every other American just with extra flavor, have multiple forms of music & creativity, inventions, & oh I'm sorry your not from here. How's the weather over there Cuzzz?



That's not flavor, it's called uncivilized.


Your view of me & my culture is uncivilized rhetoric.


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Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers [Re: fatdomgamiello36] #930262
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Originally Posted by fatdomgamiello36
Can someone give me the cliff notes of this argument? Is it that the statistical evidence is wrong and there aren't alot of black kids with no fathers or is the argument that it isn't' that bad to have no dad?


Simple.
Out of wedlock doesn't equals absentee father 100%.


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Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers [Re: OakAsFan] #930271
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Originally Posted by OakAsFan
Yeah, you told me about your grandfather. What does he have to do with you? You have no experience with Brownsville. My Grandfather lived in Chicago. You don't see me going around talking about what it was like in The Patch during Accardo's day.

Also, none of your relatives are from Brownsville. You thought of Brownsville because of Goodfellas, and you know it. Your expertise on Brownsville and how safe the old mob neighborhoods were comes from a movie.



Ocean hill is Brownsville Oak, unfortunatly I see you talking lots of things you have no clue about. You stopped making sense a long time ago.

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It is possible to have both a mother and father and be by yourself most of you life until you got married.

That was my situation had trouble with Daddio. Took to many beatings from him so I ran away at 11 did not go back till after he was murdered. I was around 16. Nutty Ma and my brother stayed home and took the beatings that I missed. Ma did not want to live anymore after daddy went to hell.

But man could she cook before she died. That is what I missed most about Ma her cooking.

I have 4 grown up children. Three of whom can’t stay married to the same person. My older brother is a 4 time loser.

I got married a short time after I moved to Brooklyn been happy with her ever since. She was not always happy with me, but she stayed with me that knucklehead.

My friends that are still alive are all divorced. My wife’s friends she has a lot of them have all been married over 50 years I used to hate to go out with them because they feel they have to divide the check I used to someone picking up the check. But they are starting to grow on me.

She has one friend that never remarried after her husband passed away. What a character she is funny and very pretty.

I don’t think people feel the need to be married any more white, black or Chinese.


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Study after study clearly shows that children born into stable, traditional family environments do much better in life than those that dont. The results are abundantly clear. 75% of blacks are born out of wedlock and what a coincidence, blacks are the majority in prison and its not because of laws designed to hold down the black man...lets be real.
There are many intelligent, successful blacks but unfortunately in the black community, they are frowned upon because they use proper english and live a responsible life. Very sad.

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Divorce and out of wedlock are two different things. 75 percent? No way. More like 50 percent. Oh, while on the subject of incarceration, perhaps city schools stop looking like prisons and more like a schools.


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Originally Posted by Footreads
It is possible to have both a mother and father and be by yourself most of you life until you got married.

That was my situation had trouble with Daddio. Took to many beatings from him so I ran away at 11 did not go back till after he was murdered. I was around 16. Nutty Ma and my brother stayed home and took the beatings that I missed. Ma did not want to live anymore after daddy went to hell.

But man could she cook before she died. That is what I missed most about Ma her cooking.

I have 4 grown up children. Three of whom can’t stay married to the same person. My older brother is a 4 time loser.

I got married a short time after I moved to Brooklyn been happy with her ever since. She was not always happy with me, but she stayed with me that knucklehead.

My friends that are still alive are all divorced. My wife’s friends she has a lot of them have all been married over 50 years I used to hate to go out with them because they feel they have to divide the check I used to someone picking up the check. But they are starting to grow on me.

She has one friend that never remarried after her husband passed away. What a character she is funny and very pretty.

I don’t think people feel the need to be married any more white, black or Chinese.


You and a few others actually understand it. It's like common sense is a superpower nowadays.


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Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Divorce and out of wedlock are two different things. 75 percent? No way. More like 50 percent. Oh, while on the subject of incarceration, perhaps city schools stop looking like prisons and more like a schools.


Look at all the data, its about 75% of all blacks born out of wedlock. Its not even debatable, its a fact.

Black Family, some people use heroin and dont get addicted but we all know the chances of being addicts from using heroin increase dramatically if someone uses it. If you are born out of wedlock your chances of being incarcerated and living an unproductive life increase dramatically. Yet knowing this, blacks continue to have out of wedlock kids and refuse to accept responsiblity for these children.
C’mon, wake up already. If blacks get their out of wedlock birth rate down below 35%, we probably wouldnt be having discussions regarding injustice. Enough is enough ! Its like get with the damn program already!!!

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Originally Posted by Belmont
Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Divorce and out of wedlock are two different things. 75 percent? No way. More like 50 percent. Oh, while on the subject of incarceration, perhaps city schools stop looking like prisons and more like a schools.


Look at all the data, its about 75% of all blacks born out of wedlock. Its not even debatable, its a fact.

Black Family, some people use heroin and dont get addicted but we all know the chances of being addicts from using heroin increase dramatically if someone uses it. If you are born out of wedlock your chances of being incarcerated and living an unproductive life increase dramatically. Yet knowing this, blacks continue to have out of wedlock kids and refuse to accept responsiblity for these children.
C’mon, wake up already. If blacks get their out of wedlock birth rate down below 35%, we probably wouldnt be having discussions regarding injustice. Enough is enough ! Its like get with the damn program already!!!



Well said Belmont.

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Originally Posted by Belmont
Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Divorce and out of wedlock are two different things. 75 percent? No way. More like 50 percent. Oh, while on the subject of incarceration, perhaps city schools stop looking like prisons and more like a schools.


Look at all the data, its about 75% of all blacks born out of wedlock. Its not even debatable, its a fact.

Black Family, some people use heroin and dont get addicted but we all know the chances of being addicts from using heroin increase dramatically if someone uses it. If you are born out of wedlock your chances of being incarcerated and living an unproductive life increase dramatically. Yet knowing this, blacks continue to have out of wedlock kids and refuse to accept responsiblity for these children.
C’mon, wake up already. If blacks get their out of wedlock birth rate down below 35%, we probably wouldnt be having discussions regarding injustice. Enough is enough ! Its like get with the damn program already!!!


Like I said before I AM one of those out of wedlock babies and know other peers as well. Therefore those chances are not entirely ACCURATE! You keep thinking that's it's a monolithic problem that solves everything is beyond foolish. Stop oversimplifying my community with your ignorance .
Same goes for you to Alexandarns.

You 2 need to get yourselves out of that idealogy . This is why bigotry isn't going anywhere


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Originally Posted by Belmont
No, im not a troll. I just dont buy into the nonsense you espouse. Its untrue and defies logic.

I really dont want 2 get into this ,but, every thread he starts or is involved in SEEMS 2b racially motivated,not 1 thread from Mr. B.F. has anything 2do w/ O,C,THAT I know of...just sayin'


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Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by Belmont
No, im not a troll. I just dont buy into the nonsense you espouse. Its untrue and defies logic.

I really dont want 2 get into this ,but, every thread he starts or is involved in SEEMS 2b racially motivated,not 1 thread from Mr. B.F. has anything 2do w/ O,C,THAT I know of...just sayin'



He does it all the time.

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Dont blame us for all the incompetence in your community, we are not the one’s constantly making irresponsible, immature decisions. If black politicians and community leaders were more concerned with doing and saying the right thing for their constituents and less concerned with being “ entertainers” , perhaps some progress would be made.

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You make some great points, however, most childrens view on blacks come from the way they are portrayed in the news which shows the extremely high level of violence in their community. They also form their views by simply encountering how blacks live in their own neighborhoods and the way they conduct themselves in public. It doesnt take a 12 year old with a genious IQ to understand the level of incompetence in the black community. Blacks also tend to glorify their way of life on tv shows that young children watch. You dont need a racist parent to indoctrinate their children, blacks are pro’s at doing that on their own.

Im sure shows like the cosby show and the fresh prince were mostly viewd by whites because both shows depicted stable, traditional families. If whites are so racist, why did they embrace both shows? Because most whites related to those shows, thays why. Both shows depicted intelligent blacks usuing proper english and leading responsible lives.
Unfortunately, many blacks call intelligent speaks blacks who live responsible lives “ sell outs”.. wtf !!!!
Apparantly its a badge of honor to use incoherent grammar, rob, sell drugs, carry guns, and have babies without being married and not being able to support a new born child.
I just think the american people are sick and tired of all the excuses.

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Originally Posted by Belmont
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Dont blame us for all the incompetence in your community, we are not the one’s constantly making irresponsible, immature decisions. If black politicians and community leaders were more concerned with doing and saying the right thing for their constituents and less concerned with being “ entertainers” , perhaps some progress would be made.

RollinBones
You make some great points, however, most childrens view on blacks come from the way they are portrayed in the news which shows the extremely high level of violence in their community. They also form their views by simply encountering how blacks live in their own neighborhoods and the way they conduct themselves in public. It doesnt take a 12 year old with a genious IQ to understand the level of incompetence in the black community. Blacks also tend to glorify their way of life on tv shows that young children watch. You dont need a racist parent to indoctrinate their children, blacks are pro’s at doing that on their own.

Im sure shows like the cosby show and the fresh prince were mostly viewd by whites because both shows depicted stable, traditional families. If whites are so racist, why did they embrace both shows? Because most whites related to those shows, thays why. Both shows depicted intelligent blacks usuing proper english and leading responsible lives.
Unfortunately, many blacks call intelligent speaks blacks who live responsible lives “ sell outs”.. wtf !!!!
Apparantly its a badge of honor to use incoherent grammar, rob, sell drugs, carry guns, and have babies without being married and not being able to support a new born child.
I just think the american people are sick and tired of all the excuses.
100% well said


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Originally Posted by alexandarns
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Originally Posted by Belmont
No, im not a troll. I just dont buy into the nonsense you espouse. Its untrue and defies logic.

I really dont want 2 get into this ,but, every thread he starts or is involved in SEEMS 2b racially motivated,not 1 thread from Mr. B.F. has anything 2do w/ O,C,THAT I know of...just sayin'



He does it all the time.


@ Blockheads.

I've been a member of this board since 2012 delivering Black OC content from street gangs to crime syndicates with information that some to most didn't even knew about the content. I immediately notice that when those topics start becoming regular that someone often derail the topic into statstical stereotypical satire. Now ask yourself and please go through ALL my topics and convos " Does Mr.BF goes into all other OC topics bringing in stereotypical satires ?" The answer is no. I read it and move on. I don't be stereotyping anyone's culture on here but BS start with " Blacks & crime" then here comes the " typical" few crying about the same old BS. Again, Y'all are peas in the same pod.


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Bill Cosby is a rapist.

Fresh Prince of Bel Air, eh, it was funny. Carlton was hilarious. But the show was corny. Kind of children's entertainment.


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I thought we had parked all this shit?

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Cosby has some interesting things to say about black people.

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers [Re: RollinBones] #930900
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Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by alexandarns

Of course buddy, we talk all the time. I can't dunk or sing like them, not even close. But you don't hear me putting blame on black folks for stealing all the talent. It's just the way thing are.

No need for anymore name calling, I haven't insulted you once. So lets keep it friendly, okey?

You're right, no need for that. However I'm simply trying to point out that whether you know it or not, you possess racist tendencies. There are plenty of black people that are not jobless, lazy, criminals, etc. And there are plenty of white people that are. It depends on the person, not the race. Most of it has to do with poverty, a state that black people were intentionally kept in for generations. We're talking about a system of racism that didn't even let black people vote in many states until relatively very recently. That's something the Irish, Italians, Jews, Polish, etc. never had to deal with, along with many other prejudices simply because they were white.

Take for instance your personal views on black people, that they're lazy, jobless, etc. You're gonna pass those views down to your own children who will in turn grow up viewing black people as inferior. You don't think that happens among millions of families in America? It's why racism is ingrained in our society. You can spend all day reading vile comments about black people from the same people who swear they're not racist. They can't see the forest through the trees so to speak.


Throw out the pathetic R Card, Doesnt work anymore, pal.
No one cares. The truth Is the truth. That silly word Racist was invented by Marxist Lenin to browbeat whites to stifle tribal cohesion. Its pushed on us by the 'Liberals" or Israelis.
Facts are facts. Blacks dont live or run a single 1st world Nation. They literally are inept to do much of anything.
Someone once said" Give a white man a brick, and he will build you a city. Give a black man a city and he will reduce it to bricks.

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Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers [Re: RollinBones] #930916
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Originally Posted by RollinBones
Originally Posted by alexandarns

Of course buddy, we talk all the time. I can't dunk or sing like them, not even close. But you don't hear me putting blame on black folks for stealing all the talent. It's just the way thing are.

No need for anymore name calling, I haven't insulted you once. So lets keep it friendly, okey?

You're right, no need for that. However I'm simply trying to point out that whether you know it or not, you possess racist tendencies. There are plenty of black people that are not jobless, lazy, criminals, etc. And there are plenty of white people that are. It depends on the person, not the race. Most of it has to do with poverty, a state that black people were intentionally kept in for generations. We're talking about a system of racism that didn't even let black people vote in many states until relatively very recently. That's something the Irish, Italians, Jews, Polish, etc. never had to deal with, along with many other prejudices simply because they were white.

Take for instance your personal views on black people, that they're lazy, jobless, etc. You're gonna pass those views down to your own children who will in turn grow up viewing black people as inferior. You don't think that happens among millions of families in America? It's why racism is ingrained in our society. You can spend all day reading vile comments about black people from the same people who swear they're not racist. They can't see the forest through the trees so to speak.



rollin if the Jews havent been kicked around, looked like inferior, locked up in camps for a 1000 years I dont know who has and look where they gotten to. So please dont try to tell me how wrong I am and look how a bad exuse you are making for blacks. Thish one you are def wrong buddy.

Re: Myth Of Absent Black Fathers [Re: BlackFamily] #930923
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The Family Unit is the backbone of society. Every society.
With a breakdown, the results are horrific. We are seeing and have seen that in our own society with the destruction of societal mores and glue being broken with the disintegration of the family unit. Its horrible.

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