Originally Posted by The_Rooster
So basically we are to believe numbers from an internet website that allows everyone to edit, and if we were to believe it then that would bring the Italian population in Tampa Bay Metro to 100k, which would be sufficient for a "decent sized" Mafia crew, if we used population as metrics and then we are suppose to believe a guy from Hernando Beach which is actually 50 miles from Tampa that the Italian culture there is alive and well? Im not being sarcastic, Im just hoping you can cite some more credible sources.


The info is from the 2010 census, it is sourced. There are a bunch of sources out there on the Italian-American population from the census. This is not a "secret society," this is simple demographics.

According to this website, https://statisticalatlas.com/state/Florida/Ancestry, 6.22% of people in Hillsborough County are of Italian ancestry, and Pinellas is 8.49%. In New York, 32.3% percent of Richmond/Staten Island are of Italian ancestry. 27.4% of the population in Suffolk County are of Italian ancestry. Nassau County is 21.5%. Queens, Manhattan and Brooklyn are all around 6%, but most wiseguys don't live in the urban centers anymore.

Another good way to look at how prominent Italian culture plays a part in Tampa would be to look at the Italian-speaking population. In Hillsborough County, 0.1% of people speak Italian at home, and in Pasco county it is 0.3% https://statisticalatlas.com/United-States/Overview.
In New York, for comparison, 2.60% of people speak Italian at home in Staten Island, 1.04% in Brooklyn, 1.21% in Queens, 0.64% in Manhattan. In Westchester it is 2.23%, Nassau is 1.87%, Suffolk is 1.11%.
So, even though Brooklyn, Queens and Manhattan have roughly the same or slightly less Italian-Americans/Americans of Italian ancestry as Hillsborough and Pinellas, about 6-10 times as many people speak Italian at home. In Richmond, Nassau, Suffolk & Westchester (where most Italian-Americans who work in the city reside nowadays) the numbers are far, far, far higher.

Also, Hernando Beach is officially part of the Tampa Metro area, which is what the website you cited (niaf.org) was measuring. So yes, it is relevant.

And yes, of course 100k people is enough for a "decent sized Mafia crew," even if there were only 30 Italian-Americans there would be enough for a "decent-sized" Mafia crew. But compared to other parts of the United States where there is a large Mafia presence, Tampa dwarfs in comparison.