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Re: The Kansas City Mob and the Las Vegas skim
[Re: GangstersInc]
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02/12/18 07:49 PM
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Giacamo or anyone else,
I'm sure this has been answered before, but why weren't the west coast families cut it on the Vegas skim? Wasn't Vegas basically their territory? Whenever I read about the skim, all of the midwest families are discussed but that's it. I know when AC opened for gambling, the bosses agreed that the midwest would have Vegas while the east coast families would have AC, but wouldn't the west coast families be brought into this? Even if there were just a few of them left, by commission rules, shouldn't they have been cut in?
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Re: The Kansas City Mob and the Las Vegas skim
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02/18/18 12:57 AM
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Giacamo or anyone else,
I'm sure this has been answered before, but why weren't the west coast families cut it on the Vegas skim? Wasn't Vegas basically their territory? Whenever I read about the skim, all of the midwest families are discussed but that's it. I know when AC opened for gambling, the bosses agreed that the midwest would have Vegas while the east coast families would have AC, but wouldn't the west coast families be brought into this? Even if there were just a few of them left, by commission rules, shouldn't they have been cut in? It has been discussed a bunch of times on this forum, the original guys who were in on the Vegas scene were the Jewish members of the Combination(Lansky, Dalitz, Zwillman, Stacher, Berman, etc.) and the Italians that they were affiliated with (Chicago, Cleveland, and the Genovese). Some other families such as New England, Detroit, St. Louis, and New Orleans had pieces of various sizes in the casinos, then Hughes came in and bought most of Vegas out. After that families affiliated with the Teamsters got in lead by Chicago, KC, Milwaukee, Detroit and Cleveland with the Genovese also involved. There were no Commission rules that would have given anyone on the West Coast anything, Vegas was like Miami open territory. If a family had the connections and the money needed to get involved they could, if not then no dice.
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Re: The Kansas City Mob and the Las Vegas skim
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02/18/18 10:10 PM
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Didn't Chicago and NY had agreement? The Outfit could have Vegas and they would stay out AC. It was a Grandfather act. Meaning that they met in the 1970's when AC allowed gambling. Families outside Chicago, Detroit, and Kansas City influences that had casino interests in LV could keep them, but no new one, while the east coast families could run AC, but the midwest and western families could not by into those casino's. AC was Bruno's territory, and he was pissing The Genovese, Lucchese, Boston and New Jersey off, by not allowing them into to deals or investing in Casinos.
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