Originally Posted By: SimonChen
Originally Posted By: Neo
Originally Posted By: SimonChen
Originally Posted By: Neo
El Chapo was born into a poor peasant family and he was leader of the Sinaloa Cartel.

Pablo Escobar was also born into a poor family, his father was a peasant farmer and his mother a school teacher (pathetic shit pay in Colombia for school teachers back then.)

A lot of Mexican cartel members and Colombia cartel members are from poor backgrounds.

In my observations, bikers seem to come from lower middle class families (people that don't have trades and just work shit jobs)





Yeah, but cartels are always different.Their money and power arent fromw the area where they operate, its from US and Europe, where their products are sold. Without the global
drug market they would be no more than a bunch of street thugs.


Not quite.

The Mexicans run large legitimate businesses and also have cornered entire industry's in their respective cities and regions. The higher ups own casinos, hotels and all sorts of businesses.

They have rackets outside of drug trafficking, like the multi-million dollar fuel theft trade, prostitution, immigrant smuggling, gambling (casinos for US tourists just across the border), exotic wild life trade.

Hardly a bunch of street thugs.

Sure they are much more than that but thats because global drug trade gave them wealth and power. If there no drug trade, the cartels wouldnt have been formed in the first place. Cartel is a combination of several powerful drug lords in order to monopolizing the whole market. Otherwise there will be only smaller gangs operating in different areas.
Anyway, these are not my point. I was just saying in America the reason why most street gangs are not so organized is that they route in the poorest neighborhood and has no access to OC market(except drug).


Street gangs are different compared to OC groups.

Street gangs are made up of teenagers and guys in their early twenties looking for a surrogate family, they didn't join a gang to further their financial interests.
OC groups are made up mostly of guys in their 40's and older. They joined an OC group purely to further their financial interests.

Last edited by Neo; 01/12/18 07:32 AM.