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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ?
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The Pagans also worked with a faction of the Philly mafia. Well documented back in the day they tried to say away from the mob . The years move on and the demand became larger and the meth cooks needed the ingredients from overseas and rest is history. In the beginning the Pagans were able to hold them off using other ingredients or American ingredients to cook .
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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ?
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Who is the leader of the Philadelphia chapter of the pagans these days? Don't know now , I know the south jersey ex president of Pagans and also the ex WOS President from 15 years give or take , he was / is John Smith Jr. III I am still tight with the Pagans ex Pres. so not going there but first name is Paul. The rico case on the WOS estimated the mother chapter havin around 100 members. Does that sound accurate to you?
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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ?
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The Pagans also worked with a faction of the Philly mafia. Well documented back in the day they tried to say away from the mob . The years move on and the demand became larger and the meth cooks needed the ingredients from overseas and rest is history. In the beginning the Pagans were able to hold them off using other ingredients or American ingredients to cook . Was there a motorcycle club connection in the Mousie Massimino case or was that just a separate trial going on at the same time so they got covered together?
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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ?
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12/23/17 02:28 PM
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Black family > I could not get a true number , back twenty years ago or more I went to a few events on the invite of the ex-pres. and it sure looked like there were a lot more then a hundred. Now they all do dress alike and no I never counted patches , this was the south jersey guys with lots of Philly members cos pretty sure the clubhouse in south jersey is no longer . I employed past and present a few of there guys through there union. Alright just wondering because that number sound incredibly high for a single chapter. I am pretty sure the Philly chapter has that easy , south jersey chapter would have big get togethers up the inlet beaches in Atlantic City and hundreds would show up just fro a beach BBQ .
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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ?
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12/23/17 09:44 PM
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This is typical Law Enforcement B.S. When they raid any 1%ers, they seize Club patches,beer mugs,belt buckles,etc. as long as it has a Club logo on it.I thought it was kind of cool that in Gorilla's case,they also seized a flail (a spiked metal ball attached to a handle by a short length of chain). Like he was going to whip this out and start swinging it in a bar fight. Like most guys,myself included,I'm sure he just thought it was cooler that sh*t,and kept it in the house as a conversation piece. Of course,I wouldn't be surprised if he took some of his Brothers out in the back yard and they took turns smashing stuff up in between beers.
On the subject of Gorilla himself,he is a legendary Pa*an,not just in Philly,but nationwide. He is feared,loved,and respected by both the old and new membership,carries a lot of clout,and is 16 for life. When "Casual" Flood tried to take his colors a few years back,he got a knife in his back and a bullet in his knee for his trouble. Then he rats out Gorilla, in court, no less. Bear in mind that Flood was the sitting President of the Philly Chapter at the time,(Gorilla's former position),and Gorilla still kept his colors. He is close with a legendary former national President of the Club,as well as a Mother Club Member who oversees the Virginia area.
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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ?
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I have no idea why the Pagans never expanded to Europe like HA, Outlaws, Bandidos and Mongols. The Pagans are the most clanish OMC of all the outlaw biker clubs. Take a look at there membership and you can see that, most of them are over 40 years old. They stay stateside, cause it is easier for them to know their membership better and they are the smallest of the outlaw groups for a reason and the ages of their membership is also a factor in why they remain state side. Mayo and, Delware, New Jersey, Philadelphia, and New York have the largest membership, I know a few in Florida and South Carolina. Talking with them, you would never have known they belong to the Pagans or even outlaw bikers, all are over 50 years old by the way.
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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ?
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01/08/18 03:27 PM
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I have no idea why the Pagans never expanded to Europe like HA, Outlaws, Bandidos and Mongols. The Pagans are the most clanish OMC of all the outlaw biker clubs. Take a look at there membership and you can see that, most of them are over 40 years old. They stay stateside, cause it is easier for them to know their membership better and they are the smallest of the outlaw groups for a reason and the ages of their membership is also a factor in why they remain state side. Mayo and, Delware, New Jersey, Philadelphia, and New York have the largest membership, I know a few in Florida and South Carolina. Talking with them, you would never have known they belong to the Pagans or even outlaw bikers, all are over 50 years old by the way. Thanks they seem old school, not like the youngsters we have here wearing sportswear and sneakers.
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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ?
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01/10/18 03:08 PM
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I meant the rackets ( if any) the WOS is active in , did they ever kick up to the Philly Family or had a partnership with them? I seen that after I responded my wife says I do that shit all the time . Don't know for sure these days but I am hearing more and more that there is a street tax . I am not saying like Scarf did but it's been coming out more and more . I guess the bigger you are the more word spreads or the closer you are to any of those guys and someone opens there mouth they will be taxed . But working directly with I have not herd anything but I am not out there like I was back in the day so something could be going on real close to me and I may never know.
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