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Pagans MC Run Philly ? #925085
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Who oc group controll philly today ? The Mob or the Bikers ?

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After Nicky and half family went I would say Pagans. Remember a story about Tony Nics being held at gun point by Pagans for disrespecting them and retribution never came. I grew up in Philly and Chester in 90s and pagans worked with mob at times and also chased Hells Angels outta Philly

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They are still willing to hurt people and love there way of life . They have been growing with out to much pressure.

Even Wheels of soul are still getting members coming in , it's to much for L/E to infuriate on a regular basis. And that's what has to be done to keep them clean or somewhat clean.


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Who is the leader of the Philadelphia chapter of the pagans these days?


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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ? [Re: thebigfella] #925116
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Originally Posted By: thebigfella
Who is the leader of the Philadelphia chapter of the pagans these days?


Don't know now , I know the south jersey ex president of Pagans and also the ex WOS President from 15 years give or take , he was / is John Smith Jr. III I am still tight with the Pagans ex Pres. so not going there but first name is Paul.


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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #925117
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The Pagans also worked with a faction of the Philly mafia.


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Originally Posted By: Hollander
The Pagans also worked with a faction of the Philly mafia.


Well documented back in the day they tried to say away from the mob . The years move on and the demand became larger and the meth cooks needed the ingredients from overseas and rest is history.

In the beginning the Pagans were able to hold them off using other ingredients or American ingredients to cook .


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Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Originally Posted By: thebigfella
Who is the leader of the Philadelphia chapter of the pagans these days?


Don't know now , I know the south jersey ex president of Pagans and also the ex WOS President from 15 years give or take , he was / is John Smith Jr. III I am still tight with the Pagans ex Pres. so not going there but first name is Paul.


The rico case on the WOS estimated the mother chapter havin around 100 members. Does that sound accurate to you?


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Black family > I could not get a true number , back twenty years ago or more I went to a few events on the invite of the ex-pres. and it sure looked like there were a lot more then a hundred. Now they all do dress alike and no I never counted patches , this was the south jersey guys with lots of Philly members cos pretty sure the clubhouse in south jersey is no longer . I employed past and present a few of there guys through there union.


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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ? [Re: Serpiente] #925138
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Originally Posted By: Serpiente
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The Pagans also worked with a faction of the Philly mafia.


Well documented back in the day they tried to say away from the mob . The years move on and the demand became larger and the meth cooks needed the ingredients from overseas and rest is history.

In the beginning the Pagans were able to hold them off using other ingredients or American ingredients to cook .


Was there a motorcycle club connection in the Mousie Massimino case or was that just a separate trial going on at the same time so they got covered together?

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Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Black family > I could not get a true number , back twenty years ago or more I went to a few events on the invite of the ex-pres. and it sure looked like there were a lot more then a hundred. Now they all do dress alike and no I never counted patches , this was the south jersey guys with lots of Philly members cos pretty sure the clubhouse in south jersey is no longer . I employed past and present a few of there guys through there union.


Alright just wondering because that number sound incredibly high for a single chapter.


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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ? [Re: furio_from_naples] #925140
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Did the old pagans president gorilla or whatever his nickname was get out of prison. Theres photos of him n merlino. Guess he wasnt a pagan anymore did he get kicked out? You cant justleave rite. I read a terrible book a few years back about some young guy whose dad was a hells angel and this kid was a pagan prospect it was bad i forgotthe name. Fucking ice storm up here in mass. Cant leave the house 2 days before xmis.

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Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
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Black family > I could not get a true number , back twenty years ago or more I went to a few events on the invite of the ex-pres. and it sure looked like there were a lot more then a hundred. Now they all do dress alike and no I never counted patches , this was the south jersey guys with lots of Philly members cos pretty sure the clubhouse in south jersey is no longer . I employed past and present a few of there guys through there union.


Alright just wondering because that number sound incredibly high for a single chapter.


I am pretty sure the Philly chapter has that easy , south jersey chapter would have big get togethers up the inlet beaches in Atlantic City and hundreds would show up just fro a beach BBQ .


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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ? [Re: pmac] #925144
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Originally Posted By: pmac
Did the old pagans president gorilla or whatever his nickname was get out of prison. Theres photos of him n merlino. Guess he wasnt a pagan anymore did he get kicked out? You cant justleave rite. I read a terrible book a few years back about some young guy whose dad was a hells angel and this kid was a pagan prospect it was bad i forgotthe name. Fucking ice storm up here in mass. Cant leave the house 2 days before xmis.


I never met him or even seen him .


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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ? [Re: pmac] #925156
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Originally Posted By: pmac
Did the old pagans president gorilla or whatever his nickname was get out of prison. Theres photos of him n merlino. Guess he wasnt a pagan anymore did he get kicked out? You cant justleave rite. I read a terrible book a few years back about some young guy whose dad was a hells angel and this kid was a pagan prospect it was bad i forgotthe name. Fucking ice storm up here in mass. Cant leave the house 2 days before xmis.


Prodigal father pagan son by lt menigerie and Kerrie droban. Droban is maybevthe worst writer in the last 100 years. That’s her best book. Hemingway compared to her other shit.

Haven’t read her latest last Chicago boss but reviews sound like all her other books. She’s a disgrace to literacy.

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I asked about gorilla in another thread and someone said he was deeply ingrained

When he got sent to the can years ago and they wanted no bail they start listing the deadly weapons he had at his home. One was a fuckin 99 cent throwing star stuck in a wall.

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Re: Pagans MC Run Philly ? [Re: alicecooper] #925161
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This is typical Law Enforcement B.S. When they raid any 1%ers, they seize Club patches,beer mugs,belt buckles,etc. as long as it has a Club logo on it.I thought it was kind of cool that in Gorilla's case,they also seized a flail (a spiked metal ball attached to a handle by a short length of chain). Like he was going to whip this out and start swinging it in a bar fight. Like most guys,myself included,I'm sure he just thought it was cooler that sh*t,and kept it in the house as a conversation piece. Of course,I wouldn't be surprised if he took some of his Brothers out in the back yard and they took turns smashing stuff up in between beers.

On the subject of Gorilla himself,he is a legendary Pa*an,not just in Philly,but nationwide. He is feared,loved,and respected by both the old and new membership,carries a lot of clout,and is 16 for life. When "Casual" Flood tried to take his colors a few years back,he got a knife in his back and a bullet in his knee for his trouble. Then he rats out Gorilla, in court, no less. Bear in mind that Flood was the sitting President of the Philly Chapter at the time,(Gorilla's former position),and Gorilla still kept his colors. He is close with a legendary former national President of the Club,as well as a Mother Club Member who oversees the Virginia area.

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Pagans have little to no pull out here nowadays (not thay they ever did) vroom vroom fa***ts! 60 year old men at the bar in denim vests lol nah

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I have no idea why the Pagans never expanded to Europe like HA, Outlaws, Bandidos and Mongols.

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Originally Posted By: Hollander
I have no idea why the Pagans never expanded to Europe like HA, Outlaws, Bandidos and Mongols.


The Pagans are the most clanish OMC of all the outlaw biker clubs. Take a look at there membership and you can see that, most of them are over 40 years old. They stay stateside, cause it is easier for them to know their membership better and they are the smallest of the outlaw groups for a reason and the ages of their membership is also a factor in why they remain state side. Mayo and, Delware, New Jersey, Philadelphia, and New York have the largest membership, I know a few in Florida and South Carolina. Talking with them, you would never have known they belong to the Pagans or even outlaw bikers, all are over 50 years old by the way.


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Originally Posted By: Giacomo_Vacari
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I have no idea why the Pagans never expanded to Europe like HA, Outlaws, Bandidos and Mongols.


The Pagans are the most clanish OMC of all the outlaw biker clubs. Take a look at there membership and you can see that, most of them are over 40 years old. They stay stateside, cause it is easier for them to know their membership better and they are the smallest of the outlaw groups for a reason and the ages of their membership is also a factor in why they remain state side. Mayo and, Delware, New Jersey, Philadelphia, and New York have the largest membership, I know a few in Florida and South Carolina. Talking with them, you would never have known they belong to the Pagans or even outlaw bikers, all are over 50 years old by the way.


Thanks they seem old school, not like the youngsters we have here wearing sportswear and sneakers.

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Originally Posted By: VegasMikey
Pagans have little to no pull out here nowadays (not thay they ever did) vroom vroom fa***ts! 60 year old men at the bar in denim vests lol nah


Its those 60 year old bikers who are the real tough guys !!

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Some of the boys just got ratted out by Dr. Kauffman a bunch of pagans and a couple of them guys I have spoke about here . Pagans doing hits again.

Let's see if Eddie and Lou can do anything here , but he is getting paid from all the boys now !

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How much interactions did the Philly family have with the WOS?


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BF they are active in Philly and have to be mixing with them most likely drugs, they most likely gave up south Jersey chapter a while back and I don't believe they have a clubhouse here that is headed properly but Philly does.

Don't get me wrong the guys are still around just not structured as far as I know but they still have big party's etc .

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I meant the rackets ( if any) the WOS is active in , did they ever kick up to the Philly Family or had a partnership with them?


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Originally Posted By: BlackFamily
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I meant the rackets ( if any) the WOS is active in , did they ever kick up to the Philly Family or had a partnership with them?


I seen that after I responded my wife says I do that shit all the time .

Don't know for sure these days but I am hearing more and more that there is a street tax . I am not saying like Scarf did but it's been coming out more and more .

I guess the bigger you are the more word spreads or the closer you are to any of those guys and someone opens there mouth they will be taxed .

But working directly with I have not herd anything but I am not out there like I was back in the day so something could be going on real close to me and I may never know.


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Don't think it was a accidental OD just saying.


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Originally Posted By: mchang93
After Nicky and half family went I would say Pagans. Remember a story about Tony Nics being held at gun point by Pagans for disrespecting them and retribution never came. I grew up in Philly and Chester in 90s and pagans worked with mob at times and also chased Hells Angels outta Philly


Yes, it happened at the Philadium Tavern in South Philly in the mid 1990s. Anthony Nicodemo was at the bar running his mouth about the Pagans, they beat him up and kidnapped him at gunpoint to make him apologize. The Pagans all then rolled up to Merlino's Avenue Cafe on their motorcycles shortly after and Merlino couldn't be found. If anyone wants to go through old Philly.com newspaper articles, it made the papers I recall.

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