Thanks Hollander for the info.

Operation OTremens: How Mafia families in New York and Canada continue cooperating in global drug trade

http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/bl...and-canada-cont

@Calibrigreen

Interesting analysis.

A Canada-wide warrant has been issued for Giuseppe Violi, so they didn't arrest him.

We know that it is last years there is a war between the Sicilians and the N'drangheta in Canada do you think that if the Bonnano or other families of New York want to reintroduce in Canada Calabrais will remain nothing to say?

As shown by the evidence, they get along fine, in fact they are pretty tight business wise. Ultimately they are all part of the same thing.

Strange. I think its fuzzy. Was this a real induction yet no burning saint or cutt finger? It was done by a 44 yr old acting capo wasnt the bonannos having big xmis partys with that guy joe c as new boss. It happend in canada so it 10hours away from nyc guys. It will make them the laughing stock again. And that guy zumma will be kicked out the family but hes gonna get 10 yrs any way. I will say if vito was alive he prkbaly wouldnt have inducted a agent with out the proper back ground check. Donnie brasco in Canada. Genovese strip you naked amd give you a bathrobe then they do the saint and blood shit. That was 15 yrs ago.

This all sounds so fugazy. Looks like the acting capo flipped in Canada and he brought up the NY guy to straighten out all these cops or one cop from Canada that he said were in his crew. That's why the video and recording. It was totally under the Canadians cops control. No knife, gun, administration or other capos like the one in Boston. This sounds like the Fresolone or the prison bathroom making ceremony. I cant' wait to see the tape.

It sounds weird. A 44yr old acting capo ran the induction ceremony? Did thus agent buy his so called button where he probaly gave them a ton of money and this guy just brought him to lunch and said now your a made guy but never cleared it with anyone of the bosses in nyc cause they would never find out anyways montreal 10 hrs away. So they got a agent inducted into the family and they only busted a acting capo and a bonanno asscociate for selling coke. All that for a 2 guy bust. It sounds like the violi fentanyl operation has no connection to these guys. They had a inducted agent in montreal but they still havnt solved 1 of those 100 murders connected to vito rizzuto. Waste of time i would say. The guy ray d brother was murder this week and the agent has no clue.

It kind of sounds like its right out of the movie Sting. They set up the NY guy to come to Canada to be present or conduct the making ceremony with the informant/agent by the captain informant just to capture it on camera and maybe make the guy fit for being stupid later on. The article says this happened in 2015 i wonder what they have been doing since?

@pmac

That is a hell of a lot of assumptions of an indictment we still know little about. As if the feds would come out with all that information before legal procedures have even begun...

Your wright i did just assume the whole shit probaly wrong on the whole shit.

Do the feds and the Canadian mounties have good working relations. They bust alot of people bringing the good weed into the usa at the borders but that could be dea.

Exactly let's wait what the undercover says at the trials to be made he had to be on the inside for a long period.

Accused Violi brothers in trafficking bust come from colourful family

https://www.google.nl/amp/s/www.thestar....ful-family.html

Is that Peter Edwards seen with Violi in the picture?

Paul Volpe must've been extremely lucky that he somehow got away with 'cheating' Magaddino, considering what happened with other guys in his family who wronged him...

That's not Peter Edwards in the photo with Violi. I don't know who the unidentified guy is.

Don't worry it's pretty big !

I've been posting for years now that everything we got since the 70's came from the north and fast ! the families along its borders my have gone under the radar but are not gone .

Canada and US mob are alive and well and bringing in loads and loads of shit and making a small fortune.

Not saying that they are the be all end all but it makes for a great environment for guys like this to make a living.

Do not know about after 911 but before you could get anything and anyone across that border to make for a perfect situation for what these guys do or need .

If Buffalo is still active along the border maybe the same goes for Detroit. I read Anthony (Tony Pal) Palazzolo is looking after its affairs in Canada.

Hollander there is always a chance" these guys do not go away and they want to be around others like them .

I know there are others in western parts PA that are still active, now don't get me wrong I not saying they are in white collar crime but they are sill doing what they know.

The guys north and west of Philly and NY are no doubt sill getting money through regular rackets and it's not hard to find out who is left in these towns.

I am in no way saying there are full mob structure or a complete defined family but they are trying and they still bring family and there in laws family from Italy over because they trust them just that little bit more.

It's all they know and young guys love the life even if it's just a small book and little protection thing .

So are the violis capos in the buffalo family or maybe there the bosses? Like how the boss in new england goes from providence to boston. But ive heard its hard to go across the boarder with any type of felony. I heard even if you try to go to by he Canada side of Niagara falls with a dui theyll detain you. Maybe also why non of the bonanno boss could get into montreal maybe why they sent a 44 yr old acting capo he didnt have a record. I cant see any of the bonanno bosses say that guy joe c trying to sneak into montreal they lock him up for a few years probaly.

maybe the buffalo family killed musitano to revenge papalia and take over hamilton rackets
i think that the bonanno's are almost surely involved in the montreal war at this point

The lupara bianca of desjardins convinced me probably two Bonanno factions fighting.

I don't think they would be crossing legally " and it's very easy to cross anyplace really but the border .

I would think it would set off a red flag with guys like this crossing legal . To this day there is large scale drops not far from the border to move things .

If it's summer and they use a boat they could move tons with very low risk of getting stopped "

I heard of guys pulling stuff under water by jet ski and police think you are out for a ride " now 911 has raised that to a different level but still how many legal paperwork boats and other can they really pull over .

They are crossing at will .

Does anyone feel like issuing an apology to me now???

Forget it. Most have their heads up their butts, but there will be a few to issue an apology.
I don't buy Joe Violi is the boss, he is the underboss, while one of the Luppino brothers is the Capo of the crew, maybe Natale, but Tony is more active up there. The other Capo is Bruno.

The Bonanno acting Capo, Zumma is a Mancuso loyalist.

I thought it was strongly agreed upon the Bonnano's were no longer an entity in Canada. I'd never heard of the Bonnano capo involved in this case. I think the making ceremony wasn't "official," but to just bleed the undercover agent dry.

Im not holding my breath.

Natale is a captain and hes been in and out of Buffalo for the last 5 years moreso than ever. I heard he has property in Fort Erie. Tony was at Falzones funeral along with a bunch of other Canadian guys.

Look for a big book bust in Buffalo soon too, and by soon I mean the next year.

Thats what i think gerry. I mean i get everyone in the rizzuto crew has been purged and maybe the american went up to montreal the agents greed blinded him next thing he says your one of us keep kicking me money.