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Re: Totò Riina entitled to dignified death [Re: Strax] #915958
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Originally Posted By: Strax
Originally Posted By: EricKumerow
There is little doubt this guy was more brutal Thani anything we've seen in America. Or at least in 40 years or more. Hard to believe the killings in Sicily.


Toto Riina and people around him,were way more brutal than anything you ever had in America.


Kubecka/Barstow, Bari, Aronwald, Hatcher, Speranza off the top of my head happened in the space of ten years, shortly before NY was cleaned up and efforts to eradicate the mob bore fruit.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: Totò Riina entitled to dignified death [Re: Strax] #917643
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Totò Riina despite the illness and advanced age is still the head of Cosa Nostra and holds strong authority over other mafiosi. It is revealed by the DIA report of the second semester of 2016. And there are some operations that still confirm the supremacy of the Corleone boss.

http://www.tp24.it/2017/07/30/antimafia/...ismatico/111864


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Re: Totò Riina entitled to dignified death [Re: Hollander] #919171
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The Beast in 2017.



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Re: Totò Riina entitled to dignified death [Re: Strax] #919188
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The bastard is evil personified.Good pic Hollander.


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Re: Totò Riina entitled to dignified death [Re: pilliano] #919234
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Originally Posted By: pilliano
The bastard is evil personified.Good pic Hollander.


It has also to do with the place he grew up Corleone a very different mentality than the rich palermitani.


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The beast was his nickname given by the media, his nickname in Cosa Nostra was Tiny.


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Re: Totò Riina entitled to dignified death [Re: Hollander] #919265
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Originally Posted By: Hollander
The beast was his nickname given by the media, his nickname in Cosa Nostra was Tiny.

The literal translation is "the short one" - "u curtu" is the Sicilian word for "il corto" in Italian.
By the way, how many of them are nicknamed for being of short stature:

Antonino Imerti ('Ndrangheta boss of Fiumara di Muro) - Ferocious dwarf (nano feroce)

Girolamo Marino (Cosa Nostra boss of Paceco, Trapani province, whacked in 1986) - Mommo u nanu (Mommo the dwarf)

Antonino Lo Giudice ('Ndrangheta boss in the Santa Caterina district in Reggio Calabria) - Il nano (the dwarf)

Thomas "Shorty" Spero (Colombo family)

Ralph "Shorty" Caleca (St.Louis family)

Little Nicky Scarfo

Also, wasn't Amuso somtimes called "Little Vic"?

And there is also a photo of Casso walking near a huge guy that makes Casso look like a dwarf by comparison. Didn't Casso ever get a nickname because of this, or "Gaspipe" is the only one?


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Re: Totò Riina entitled to dignified death [Re: Hollander] #919283
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I agree with you Hollander,it's just that he took it to another level.


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Re: Totò Riina entitled to dignified death [Re: pilliano] #919294
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Originally Posted By: pilliano
I agree with you Hollander,it's just that he took it to another level.


Yeah him and that nutcase Bagarella. Some American media reported that he was responsible for 1000 murders, but that seems an exaggeration. Most likely they were invloved in more than 150 murders.


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Originally Posted By: Hollander
Originally Posted By: pilliano
I agree with you Hollander,it's just that he took it to another level.


Yeah him and that nutcase Bagarella. Some American media reported that he was responsible for 1000 murders, but that seems an exaggeration. Most likely they were invloved in more than 150 murders.


Toto Riina is just brutal,Bagarella is really crazy,he is totally nuts,together with Filippo Marchese.

1000 is way too much , about 200-250 max,Giuseppe Greco alone was charged 58 counts of murder.


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totò riina could be really involved in 1.000 murders or even more he killed probably 40 people but he ordered the murders of hundreds
from 1982 to 1993 riina was the boss of bosses, so a large amount of mafia-related murders in this period (more than 1.000) were likely ordered by him let's to speak 150 in palermo alone in 1982 but he ordered murders all across sicily and even outside

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To quote Tony Soprano..."You're entitled to $hit".

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Originally Posted By: m2w
totò riina could be really involved in 1.000 murders or even more he killed probably 40 people but he ordered the murders of hundreds
from 1982 to 1993 riina was the boss of bosses, so a large amount of mafia-related murders in this period (more than 1.000) were likely ordered by him let's to speak 150 in palermo alone in 1982 but he ordered murders all across sicily and even outside


He def was the instigator of the war, but many allies were also killed for example in the war with Stidda. It's more complicated to explain the murders because many powerful bosses had their own agenda but its easier to blame one guy Toto Riina.


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Was the violence of Toto Riina and the Corleonesis equivalent to the Cartels in South/Central America? Or even close it?

Im thinking beacuse of here its Europe its like 10 times more difficult to act like savages.

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Originally Posted By: doggystyle
Was the violence of Toto Riina and the Corleonesis equivalent to the Cartels in South/Central America? Or even close it?

Im thinking beacuse of here its Europe its like 10 times more difficult to act like savages.


no, mexican and colombian cartels are by far more violent
anyway very violent for european standards, the most violent group ever seen in europe surely

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I know the Corleonesi killed childrens and innocent people to. They killed like 20 relatives of a snitch, like his childrens, mother, sister , father etc etc.

Pablo Escobars son says that his father was inspired by Toto Riina and they would sit infront of the TV every day and watch the news about him.

I think the violence is the same but in south/central america its in a much larger scale. Like everyone is doing it not only one group like it was in Italy back then.

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