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Re: I assume that this is a dumb question...
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Oli is correct: There's no mention of her first name in the novel or in the theatrical releases of GF and II. In a deleted scene from GF, Bonasera, after getting the call from Hagen to meet the Don at his funeral parlor, turns to his wife and says, "I curse-a the day when you and Commore Corleone became friends." I hear it as "Commore" (Godmother), but it could have been Carmela.
In III, at Michael's party, Mary presents a check for $100 million to Archbishop Gilday from, I believe, "the Vito and Carmela Corleone Foundation."
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: I assume that this is a dumb question...
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Oli is correct: There's no mention of her first name in the novel or in the theatrical releases of GF and II. In a deleted scene from GF, Bonasera, after getting the call from Hagen to meet the Don at his funeral parlor, turns to his wife and says, "I curse-a the day when you and Commore Corleone became friends." I hear it as "Commore" (Godmother), but it could have been Carmela.
In III, at Michael's party, Mary presents a check for $100 million to Archbishop Gilday from, I believe, "the Vito and Carmela Corleone Foundation." You're right on with the "Commore Corleone" from the deleted scene. That's how I understood it. I just watched the scene in Part 3 and Mary says "Here is 100 million dollars for the poor of Sicily in the name of Vito Corleone" No mention of Carmela.
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Re: I assume that this is a dumb question...
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No problem at all turnbull. Any excuse to watch some GF is a good excuse.
I looked at the wedding scene too when they pull her up to sing che la luna thinking they say her name but you can only hear a guy say senora corleone.
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Re: I assume that this is a dumb question...
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From Wikipedia
Morgana King as Carmela Corleone, Vito's wife and mother of Sonny, Fredo, Michael, and Connie, and adoptive mother to Tom Hagen.
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Re: I assume that this is a dumb question...
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Okay, a search of the text of "The Godfather Returns," by Winegardner, includes a Cast of Characters that identifies Mama as Carmela. It looks like the book was published in 2004, and searching on here it looks like no one used the name until 2005.
I've never read any of the sequel or prequels, but it looks like that could be the source.
Edit: very strange they'd pick the same name as Mrs. Soprano, if the Winegardner book is, indeed, the source.
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Re: I assume that this is a dumb question...
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Okay, a search of the text of "The Godfather Returns," by Winegardner, includes a Cast of Characters that identifies Mama as Carmela. It looks like the book was published in 2004, and searching on here it looks like no one used the name until 2005.
I've never read any of the sequel or prequels, but it looks like that could be the source.
Edit: very strange they'd pick the same name as Mrs. Soprano, if the Winegardner book is, indeed, the source. It's a lot older than that. If you look online you'll see Mama referred to as Carmela in the screenplay and shooting script of GF and GFII. My guess is that Puzo named her Carmela when he was developing the character. Even though it never made it into the novel or movie, it was her name in the script and, therefore, known to the cast and crew and eventually made its way into public view.
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Re: I assume that this is a dumb question...
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Yes, the little guy who calls her up to sing is Dano, who helped Vito with his coat when he was leaving his office just before he got shot. Thanks I never knew that was his name
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Re: I assume that this is a dumb question...
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My guess is that Puzo named her Carmela when he was developing the character. Even though it never made it into the novel or movie, it was her name in the script and, therefore, known to the cast and crew and eventually made its way into public view.
That's probably true, Woltz. We know that Roth's wife's name is Marcia, and the bodyguard's name is Buscetta, only from the script. They weren't named in the movie.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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