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Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: Strax] #920789
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Moe, come on. Junior signed off on this project. Probably his money paying for the movie. "Glorifying a criminal?" Come on, man. What did you expect? Not many gangster movies around who don't glorify them, to some extent at least.


-I shot him a coupla' times.
-What's a couple?
-Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times?
-Maybe fifteen?
-Hmm, it could've been fifteen...

-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: Strax] #920791
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Goodfellas and Casino didn't make their main characters likable people to Scorsese's credit, but I'm aware there are plenty of examples to the contrary.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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The words at the very end read (i'm paraphrasing) "He showed the world who was boss".....

We are talking about a degenerate gambler who drew so much heat and attention to the Gambinos that he practically destroyed them.

Then "after" he nearly decimates one of the best most well oiled crime families in history, he winds up in a supermax for the rest of his short life.

He really showed the world who was boss alright.

One more thing.....
Did anybody catch the little scene with Willie Boy? That was a brilliant piece of casting (NOT) some skinny little american looking guy with curly hair. You mean nobody in the casting dept ever saw a picture of the real Willie Boy Johnson? Even the budget movie "Sinatra Club" got closer to the real Willie Boy.

They also have "Curly" playing "Quack Quack".

The HBO movie so far is looking way better.

Sal

Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: Strax] #920795
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I had to laugh when his wife says "he provides" in the trailer.

It's common knowledge that his income (or lack thereof) and inability to support his family was a source of constant strife between the two of them in the 60's and 70's.

He was a degenerate gambler and deadbeat who couldn't stay out of prison, even when he was boss.

We are talking about someone who hustled his wife and newborn child out of a hospital in the dead of night because he was too broke to pay the bill.

And you have to laugh when it's said that people who owe gambling debts to mobsters deserve to be beaten, as if it's one rule for guys like Joey Merlino and John Gotti and another for Joe Shmo.

Guys like Merlino and Gotti were bosses and they constantly racked up debts they couldn't/wouldn't pay!


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Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: salvi62] #920797
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Originally Posted By: salvi62
The words at the very end read (i'm paraphrasing) "He showed the world who was boss".....

We are talking about a degenerate gambler who drew so much heat and attention to the Gambinos that he practically destroyed them.

Then "after" he nearly decimates one of the best most well oiled crime families in history, he winds up in a supermax for the rest of his short life.

He really showed the world who was boss alright.

One more thing.....
Did anybody catch the little scene with Willie Boy? That was a brilliant piece of casting (NOT) some skinny little american looking guy with curly hair. You mean nobody in the casting dept ever saw a picture of the real Willie Boy Johnson? Even the budget movie "Sinatra Club" got closer to the real Willie Boy.

They also have "Curly" playing "Quack Quack".

The HBO movie so far is looking way better.

Sal


Adam Beach from Flags of Our Fathers would've been a better casting choice.

Guy who plays Ruggiero is a good actor, and likeness, though.


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Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: salvi62] #920798
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Originally Posted By: salvi62
The words at the very end read (i'm paraphrasing) "He showed the world who was boss".....

We are talking about a degenerate gambler who drew so much heat and attention to the Gambinos that he practically destroyed them.

Then "after" he nearly decimates one of the best most well oiled crime families in history, he winds up in a supermax for the rest of his short life.

He really showed the world who was boss alright.


Touché.

I also find this to look suboptimal.

Btw, they make it look like Dellacrose is still alive after Castellano is shot.


"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: Strax] #920799
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Junior is probably the main man on this project, the adviser, and probably the one who decides which scenes make the cut or not. I bet he's so excited he's probably wet his pants when watching the trailer. Even though John Gotti loved publicity I really doubt he'd like this shit if he were alive.


-I shot him a coupla' times.
-What's a couple?
-Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times?
-Maybe fifteen?
-Hmm, it could've been fifteen...

-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: Strax] #920809
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Forwhatever its worth the gotti family will make acouple million of this project. I thought it was gonna look realy bad it wasnt that bad. The jonny depp blackmass movie looked great the plot blew. Jr and his 2 sister n mom will get a nice check. I watch on gomovies or watever free movie place on the web probaly not cause travolta i dont no. Scientology is so weird and the gay spa hand job shit. Bad gotti. But theyll make a buck so i guess crime pays for some. A very small few. Not me im going back to jail. Wwaaaaa

Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: Moe_Tilden] #920818
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Guys like Merlino and Gotti were bosses and they constantly racked up debts they couldn't/wouldn't pay!


Gotti did a lot of things wrong, but according to friend and foe alike he always paid his gambling debts..


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Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: BillyBrizzi] #920819
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Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Guys like Merlino and Gotti were bosses and they constantly racked up debts they couldn't/wouldn't pay!


Gotti did a lot of things wrong, but according to friend and foe alike he always paid his gambling debts..

right......with his crew members earnings. So basically his crew paid off his debts and they had to resort to dealing drugs to earn

Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: Strax] #920823
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Thats the way it works man. You know it. What was he supposed to do, sell his house? That's the life when you're the boss, you're expected to live large, spend money, gamble... everyone you know gambles.


-I shot him a coupla' times.
-What's a couple?
-Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times?
-Maybe fifteen?
-Hmm, it could've been fifteen...

-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: Strax] #920844
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This looks terrible...I think most here probably laughed when they heard Travolta was gonna play Gotti !!

Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: JCrusher] #920847
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Originally Posted By: JCrusher
Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Guys like Merlino and Gotti were bosses and they constantly racked up debts they couldn't/wouldn't pay!


Gotti did a lot of things wrong, but according to friend and foe alike he always paid his gambling debts..

right......with his crew members earnings. So basically his crew paid off his debts and they had to resort to dealing drugs to earn


True. On one of those wiretaps Angelo Ruggiero is heard complaining about this to Gene Gotti..


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Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: DiLorenzo] #920850
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Originally Posted By: DiLorenzo
This looks terrible...I think most here probably laughed when they heard Travolta was gonna play Gotti !!


Yup what makes it worse is that this is basically a gotti fluff piece and the gottis had a lot of say in the portrayal. So we will be seeing gotti as a cool robin hood figure instead of the degenerate gambling egotistical murdering moron that he really was

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Oh yeah, he's gonna be portrayed as the ultimate family man, only used violence when he had too and was good for the neighborhood..Just ask John Favara !!

Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: Strax] #920875
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Just glad to see a post from Pizzaboy

Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: Moe_Tilden] #920902
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Goodfellas and Casino didn't make their main characters likable people to Scorsese's credit, but I'm aware there are plenty of examples to the contrary.


Actually they made Lefty out to be a pretty decent guy who just happened to be friends with Nicky/Tony Spilotro. Show what he did that made him look "unlikable"? Come to find out he was a rat and had the Feds after him for a few businesses being fire bombed in Miami. No telling how many bad things he did over the years. As for Goodfellas I agree.

Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: pizzaboy] #920904
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Looks terrible. Just my opinion. Time will tell but I'll be shocked if it gets a theatrical release. It might be worth streaming, though.

Side note: It looks like Gotti is saying a prayer at Frank's grave. The HBO movie with Assante made the same mistake. Frank Gotti is in the family crypt in the mausoleum at Saint John's. But I understand the directorial license.


Yeah, that too.

Off record, I dunno why you don't post anything on my thread Pizzaboy, huh? And yeah, you don't know me but I know you, alright?

Just post something, much love.



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Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: dixiemafia] #920911
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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Goodfellas and Casino didn't make their main characters likable people to Scorsese's credit, but I'm aware there are plenty of examples to the contrary.


Actually they made Lefty out to be a pretty decent guy who just happened to be friends with Nicky/Tony Spilotro. Show what he did that made him look "unlikable"? Come to find out he was a rat and had the Feds after him for a few businesses being fire bombed in Miami. No telling how many bad things he did over the years. As for Goodfellas I agree.

i never got the impression lefty/ace was a decent guy in casino. I mean he wasnt a muscle guy or traditional mobster but he wasnt a good guy. Didnt he basically order a guy to have his hand shattered by a hammer when he caught him cheating?

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I don't care if Travolta is gay. I would rather have all the actors be gay and have a good movie. This looks terrible.

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William Forsythe was a convincing Sammy Gravano.

He was also great in Boardwalk Empire.


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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
William Forsythe was a convincing Sammy Gravano.

He was also great in Boardwalk Empire.


He was great in both of those roles.

He was great as Cockeye in Once Upon A Time In America as well.
I remember when I saw Gotti for the first time I laughed when I saw him as Gravano, I said "hey it's cockeye"

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Re: Gotti - Trailer [Re: Strax] #921214
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He also played Al Capone in the Untouchables tv show.

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He also played Al Capone in the Untouchables tv show.

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Actually having watched it few times- it actually looks quite good especially towards end of trailer

But some of the scenes and acting ie the Johnson scene looks abit questionable

Travolta has also bought some bravado to the character/ abit too much. I would have preferred a much more serious Gotti/ Travolta although will have to watch the end product to decide

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It looks cheap, and it will be cheap crap. You guys that said it looks good act like you never saw a decent movie in your whole life.

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Luckily we have Alexandarns who can judge a movie with 100% certainty based on a trailer. rolleyes


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abso-fucking-lutely! Everyone can see its cheap, even the scenes that were picked for the trailer, which are supposed to be good, are cheap and bad. You dont need to be a movie expert to see the movie is crap. Other than us (forum guys) nobody even knows that the movie, making of it exists. A rat like John jr making a movie about how his father was a gangster and a stand up guy...Its it an abomination, and boring to say the least.

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I'll have to argue against that because a friend of mine who is not into OC sent me the trailer (knowing I'm an avid reader ). Plus it hasn't hit the screens hence only then will more people know of the movie

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Okay Tony, but trust me it's gonna suck ass. Remmembwr me when you watch it smile If I'm wrong i'll be happy to admit I was wrong but I doubt it very much.

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