Joe Zerilli was on the national commission, but after 1974 he told Joe Cerrito and Manny Figlia that New York dropped both him and Angelo Bruno. He answers to Chicago while Bruno answered to New York (Gambino family). In 1978, Chicago allowed Jackie of Detroit and Nick of Kansas City to sit in on meetings and represent some of the other families out west. By 1984, Chicago was thinking of allowing Frank from Milwaukee to sit in the meetings and Milwaukee owed Alan Glickman, and thus had a lot of control over Las Vegas, while not allowing Kansas City to sit in the discussions, due to they trusted and liked Nick, but didn't really think highly of Carl and Willie the Rat.