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5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history #917593
07/28/17 05:02 PM
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Last edited by Strax; 07/29/17 10:57 AM.

"A fish with his mouth closed never get's caught"
Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: Strax] #917601
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The story of the Uva couple, who robbed the social clubs, was made into a movie, Rob The Mob. Has Ray Ramano and Joe Gannascoli (Vito from Sopranos) in it.


"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: OakAsFan] #917609
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Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
The story of the Uva couple, who robbed the social clubs, was made into a movie, Rob The Mob. Has Ray Ramano and Joe Gannascoli (Vito from Sopranos) in it.


They also made one last year called The Wannabe with Vincent Piazza (played Lucky Luciano on BWE) and Particia Arquette (True Romance) as the Uvas.


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Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: Strax] #917610
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Can you please remove all the text except for the intro and link? This isn't cool.


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Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: GangstersInc] #917615
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Originally Posted By: GangstersInc
Can you please remove all the text except for the intro and link? This isn't cool.


When i post an article i always copy the whole text and then include source,anyways sorry i removed it.

Last edited by Strax; 07/29/17 11:02 AM.

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Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: Strax] #917617
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Castellano knowing Angelo Ruggerio mentioned him on those tapes, becuase it led to Big Paul being indicted. Yet, Big Paul still hesitated to act and demanded a copy of the tapes.

Someone else on here a while back mentioned if it were Gigante he would've just had em clipped, no hesitation. Castellano should've had Ruggerio and propbably Gene Gotti handled immediately as soon as he got word his name was mentioned.

If he would've done that, John Gotti might've been too scared to make a move. Big Paul's hesitation cost him his life.


"It wasn't very good parsley to begin with, and then the cat went and peed on it." -Sicilian proverb
Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: Strax] #917618
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Also, Big Paul making Tommy Bellotti as his underboss. If he put Jimmy Failla in as UB he might've been feared and respected enough for the Gotti conspirators to not make a move.


"It wasn't very good parsley to begin with, and then the cat went and peed on it." -Sicilian proverb
Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: Strax] #917639
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Excellent thread to start....I am pretty sure this one will get some interesting replies.

I am gonna sit back and take in everyone's opinion.

My opinion is, Gotti trying to be Al Capone in 1985. He single handily brought down the entire game.

Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: Strax] #917644
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Also Nardi (that was an associate) and Danny Greene that tried to take the cleveland family.

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Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: Strax] #917645
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For the Gallo war,I think that if in the early 1960s crazy joe had serious changes to take the family and if shouldn't arrested he would become the boss or a powerful capo under colombo.

Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: Strax] #917691
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Not whacking Pete Savino should be on there but that move was by one of the more clever dons, heh

Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: Strax] #920158
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The guy who sexually assaulted Greg Scarpa's daughter and don't forget Paul Castellano's son-in-law who for reasons known only to himself thought beating his wife (Paul's daughter) was a good idea!........

Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: Strax] #920159
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The thieves who broke into tony accardo's house to retake the stuff they had already stolen once.That set of a wave of killings by the outfit crews.


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Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: GaryH] #920162
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Originally Posted By: GaryH
The guy who sexually assaulted Greg Scarpa's daughter and don't forget Paul Castellano's son-in-law who for reasons known only to himself thought beating his wife (Paul's daughter) was a good idea!........

Yup that was Frank Amato. The demeo crew took care of him

Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: Strax] #920164
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Vito Genovese made arguably 2 of the dumbest moves in cosa nostra history.

The Apalachin meeting was definitely a dumb move having that many gangsters come into a small town after having meetings there before.

Vito Genovese kiss of death on Joe Valachi basically labeling him a rat when he had not yet flipped but after that giving him a reason to do so.

Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: furio_from_naples] #920165
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Also Nardi (that was an associate) and Danny Greene that tried to take the cleveland family.

I think it wasn't that dumb, they had a chance to win (especially with somebody like Licavoli as their main opponent).

About dumbest moves by the Mafia, I would quote Licavoli's actions again: if he really switched price tags on pants in shops and used stolen credit cards when he was boss already (or anyway, when he was already drowning in the money he made), even though he had no consequences from this, it still makes him look like a clown. Even Roy DeMeo or Sam DeStefano's motives can be explained at least with some psychological illness or whatever, but here with Licavoli I don't really get it....Unless the stories were just made up by somebody who wanted him to look funny.


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1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: BillyBrizzi] #920166
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Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: OakAsFan
The story of the Uva couple, who robbed the social clubs, was made into a movie, Rob The Mob. Has Ray Ramano and Joe Gannascoli (Vito from Sopranos) in it.


They also made one last year called The Wannabe with Vincent Piazza (played Lucky Luciano on BWE) and Particia Arquette (True Romance) as the Uvas.


I gotta be honest - I liked this one much better.


-I shot him a coupla' times.
-What's a couple?
-Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times?
-Maybe fifteen?
-Hmm, it could've been fifteen...

-Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso
Re: 5 of the dumbest moves in Mafia history [Re: Strax] #920182
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Bonanno trying to kill 3 of the top bosses on the commission !!

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Meyer Lansky sinking $5 million of his money, and $6 million of others' money, into building the Havana Riviera Hotel and Casino--opened nine months before Castro took over.


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