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Re: Was Christie Tick only Commission case release?
[Re: ItalianIrishMix]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_Commission_TrialANTHONY INDELICATO Register Number: 19706-054 Age: 70 Race: White Sex: Male Located at: Oklahoma City FTC Release Date: 09/28/2023 Anthony "Bruno" Indelicato born in 1947 (as is write in inmate locator) get 40 y during the commission trial for galante hit but served only 13 years and was released in 2000 on parole, but returned to prison in summer 2001 for eight months after violating parole by meeting with known Bonanno family members. He then served 2 more years for a parole violation in February 2004. On December 16, 2008, he was sentenced to 20 years in federal prison for the 2001 murder of Frank Santoro. I don't know why served only 13 y and get paroled,maybe had a good lawyer or maybe the feds think that after so much time Bruno won't be welcomed by bonannos and maybe would flip anyway he is a stand up guy and don't flipped even when get 20 years in 2008.
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Re: Was Christie Tick only Commission case release?
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08/31/17 06:34 PM
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@Furio.
I always thought Persico was the official Boss after the death of Joe Colombo. Even if he wasn't the Boss in-name; He had the final say in everything that went on in that family. Didn't Persico oppose the murder of Galante?
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Re: Was Christie Tick only Commission case release?
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Persico was the Boss. He just wants out of jail. He will say and do anything to get released. I would too.
@Furio - What is the timeline from Columbo death until Nov. 1980.
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Re: Was Christie Tick only Commission case release?
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Pegleg Brancato was the acting boss after Colombo, but yeah they say he was a placeholder for Persico.
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Re: Was Christie Tick only Commission case release?
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He's 90 + years old. Christy Tick is shitting in his diaper and spending time with his family.
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Re: Was Christie Tick only Commission case release?
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He's 90 + years old. Christy Tick is shitting in his diaper and spending time with his family. Ryan- i hear ya, people keep saying that and that he was at deaths door in 2015 yet hes still here, havent heard or a seen a peep outta him.. i mean Sonny was running a crew, fingering strippers, and extorting guys his grandsons age anf Christy Tick is just as smart, ruthless, and tough from the same old school... i know logically ur pry right.. but its possible you're wrong
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Re: Was Christie Tick only Commission case release?
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Persico was the Boss. He just wants out of jail. He will say and do anything to get released. I would too.
@Furio - What is the timeline from Columbo death until Nov. 1980. Acting 1971–1972 — Joseph Yacovelli – fled, after the murder of Joe Gallo Acting 1972–1973 – Vincenzo "Vincent" Aloi imprisoned Acting 1973 — Joseph "Joey" Brancato – imprisoned 1973–present — Carmine "Junior" Persico – imprisoned 1973–1979,1981–1984,1985–present Acting 1973–1979 — Thomas DiBella– stepped down, became consigliere
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Re: Was Christie Tick only Commission case release?
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09/01/17 11:01 AM
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Carlo gambino and the rest of the bosses choose thomas dibella as the new boss around 74 75. Carmine persico just started his 10 yr bid and wouldnt be freed till 1979. Michael franzese scarpa jr and a few others have told the feds dibella was the official boss even thou he was a place holder for persico. The commission asked dibella to step down for carmine and he didnt have a problem with it in nov 1980 according to scarpa. They know he wasnt the boss i think he was the underboss threwout tue whole 70tys. The feds never want him free. If Franzese said this, I see that statement as another Thank You for Not whacking him (Of course the multi-million buy out of the life is the other) Franzese's has credibility in the real world now so, he knows that his words could possibly get Carmine released(Doubtful he does).....BUT, if he did, Carmine might be sending Michael a fat envelope. Time will tell!
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Re: Was Christie Tick only Commission case release?
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Michael franzses wrote his first book in the early 90tys. He goes into detail about tom dibella being the boss. Carmine persico i think went to prison in 1973 after his last appeal was nulled. He was sentenced to 12 yrs i think so hed have to do like 7ish. So the commission had to put in a official boss it was gambinos friend. Like greg scarpa said to the fbi he steped down in 1980 he was a real old man by then. Carmines whole appeal for freedom is he told his cousin he didnt want to kill galante but it wasnt his vote it was dibellas. It makes sense. They should have charged him with anyone of the dozen murders he orderd from prison after the commission trial like the d.a.s father. killed by the colombos. Think hes innocent of galantes murder. Even massino cleared the whole story up he said on the stand rustelli order galantes murder it didnt have to do with other bosses. Rusty was the offical boss of the bonanno family. But then which one of the 2 versions is more likely? That it was a Commission decision with DiBella voting against or was it Rastelli alone? Even if both versions say Persico wasn't involved, still they are different, was there a vote or was it just Rastelli? But I wonder why didn't the feds get crazy with rage after the Aronwald murder Persico ordered. Wanted a prosecutor hit, killed his father instead (a judge anyway, even an administrative one, still law enforcement) and the reaction was so-so: Cacace got 20 years, not life, and Persico wasn't charged. Even though he was already serving 170 years or something like that, still the absence of vengeful reaction against him seems out of character. For example, when Massino flipped, there was talk about death penalty, since the Sciascia murder was committed after a new law was introduced, so allegedly Massino flipped in exchange for his life being spared, although for some insane reason they released him after 10 years only (although some people say he knew they don't use death penalty in New York any more, if I remember well). So, why didn't they get pissed at Persico for the Aronwald murder and ask for the death penalty, like they were going to for Massino? Seems out of character, usually when somebody from law enforcement is targeted or killed, the reaction is 100 times the normal one.
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Re: Was Christie Tick only Commission case release?
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09/01/17 10:33 PM
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Michael franzses wrote his first book in the early 90tys. He goes into detail about tom dibella being the boss. Carmine persico i think went to prison in 1973 after his last appeal was nulled. He was sentenced to 12 yrs i think so hed have to do like 7ish. So the commission had to put in a official boss it was gambinos friend. Like greg scarpa said to the fbi he steped down in 1980 he was a real old man by then. Carmines whole appeal for freedom is he told his cousin he didnt want to kill galante but it wasnt his vote it was dibellas. It makes sense. They should have charged him with anyone of the dozen murders he orderd from prison after the commission trial like the d.a.s father. killed by the colombos. Think hes innocent of galantes murder. Even massino cleared the whole story up he said on the stand rustelli order galantes murder it didnt have to do with other bosses. Rusty was the offical boss of the bonanno family. I actually also believe that he voted No on Galante....It does make some sense and his only angle to work....I guess once he saw Furnari released, he saw a possible way out. When was the first time Carmine filed an appeal for this issue? I wasn't even a year old when Galante got whacked.
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Re: Was Christie Tick only Commission case release?
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09/02/17 06:21 PM
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@Pmac.
Your saying that Tom Dibella was the official Boss and place-holder; while Persico who was in prison at the time was the true power?
Is it kinda like how Carmine Tramunti was the official Boss in the Lucchese's and place-holder while Anthony Corallo was the true power?
It seems both are similar.
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Re: Was Christie Tick only Commission case release?
[Re: Dwalin2011]
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09/03/17 05:17 AM
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Michael franzses wrote his first book in the early 90tys. He goes into detail about tom dibella being the boss. Carmine persico i think went to prison in 1973 after his last appeal was nulled. He was sentenced to 12 yrs i think so hed have to do like 7ish. So the commission had to put in a official boss it was gambinos friend. Like greg scarpa said to the fbi he steped down in 1980 he was a real old man by then. Carmines whole appeal for freedom is he told his cousin he didnt want to kill galante but it wasnt his vote it was dibellas. It makes sense. They should have charged him with anyone of the dozen murders he orderd from prison after the commission trial like the d.a.s father. killed by the colombos. Think hes innocent of galantes murder. Even massino cleared the whole story up he said on the stand rustelli order galantes murder it didnt have to do with other bosses. Rusty was the offical boss of the bonanno family. But then which one of the 2 versions is more likely? That it was a Commission decision with DiBella voting against or was it Rastelli alone? Even if both versions say Persico wasn't involved, still they are different, was there a vote or was it just Rastelli? But I wonder why didn't the feds get crazy with rage after the Aronwald murder Persico ordered. Wanted a prosecutor hit, killed his father instead (a judge anyway, even an administrative one, still law enforcement) and the reaction was so-so: Cacace got 20 years, not life, and Persico wasn't charged. Even though he was already serving 170 years or something like that, still the absence of vengeful reaction against him seems out of character. For example, when Massino flipped, there was talk about death penalty, since the Sciascia murder was committed after a new law was introduced, so allegedly Massino flipped in exchange for his life being spared, although for some insane reason they released him after 10 years only (although some people say he knew they don't use death penalty in New York any more, if I remember well). So, why didn't they get pissed at Persico for the Aronwald murder and ask for the death penalty, like they were going to for Massino? Seems out of character, usually when somebody from law enforcement is targeted or killed, the reaction is 100 times the normal one. Dwalin2011,Persico passed most of his life in prison,so the death penalty wouldn't scary him while massino was 60 y old and don't wanted to die in a federal prison like florence.For the aronwald case,cacace killed both aronwald sr killers amd who killed them so was impossible to link persico to aronwald,cacace was indicted for extortion, illegal gambling and four murders,get 20 y but was lucky to be acquitted of the 4 murders.
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Re: Was Christie Tick only Commission case release?
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09/04/17 03:25 AM
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In Blood Covenant, Michael Franzese says in 1975 "Jo Jo introduced me to Colombo family acting boss Thomas DiBella" and that DiBella was put there by the real boss Persico. I'd assume that if the Commission was voting to have someone killed, Persico would have to actually send out his vote from prison and not let DiBella decide the Colombo vote for him. Fred DeChristopher, whose house Persico was hiding out in later on, testified that Persico voted against killing Galante. Even if he was opposed to it, I'd assume legally he was involved in the murder. However, the legitimacy of DeChristopher's testimony is worth questioning. Also, it doesn't seem like the Galante hit was Commission business anyway. He wasn't the boss, Rastelli was. So there was no need for a Commission vote to take him out. Pmac mentioned earlier, Massino testified that Rastelli gave the order. If I remember correctly, it was all taken care of by Bonanno members. They did meet up and were congratulated at the Ravenite afterwards, but that only shows Bonanno and Gambino involvement, not necessarily the Commission. Even if he isn't actually guilty of involvement in the Galante killing, and I'd bet he wasn't, Persico was still convicted of other charges in the Commission trial, so he might not get out of prison. Plus he's still got a few years to go from the Colombo Family trial convictions! 
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