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USA-North Korea war is possible? #918310
08/12/17 02:08 PM 08/12/17 02:08 PM

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Under Obama I would say NO but with Trump in charge anything is possible.

Last edited by furio_from_naples; 08/12/17 02:09 PM.

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #918323 08/12/17 06:25 PM 08/12/17 06:25 PM
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Footreads F Underboss Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,401	So let's all hide under our beds and we will be safe. See 67 percent said no and you said yes. Your in the minority it seems. only the unloved hate

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: Footreads] #918326 08/12/17 07:10 PM 08/12/17 07:10 PM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 7,532 naples,italy furio_from_naples OP
furio_from_naples OP Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 7,532 naples,italy	Originally Posted By: Footreads So let's all hide under our beds and we will be safe. See 67 percent said no and you said yes. Your in the minority it seems. Unfortunately was also the minority who thinked that Trump won't be president, but now he's the president and I'm afraid of him because compared to him Berlusconi seems a great stateman.

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #918334 08/12/17 08:24 PM 08/12/17 08:24 PM
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dixiemafia ROLL TIDE!!!!! D Underboss Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 3,582 Alabama	I wished NK would be dumb enough to try and bomb Guam. He can't hit Guam much less the mainland. THAAD and Aegis are just too strong. He would lose his life over a few wasted missiles because if he sends anything towards a United States territory we will hit and hit hard enough that he will go and be swinging by a rope like Hussein did...

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #918336 08/12/17 08:34 PM 08/12/17 08:34 PM
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Footreads F Underboss Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,401	Don't be afraid I voted for him and contributed to his campaign. I I was afraid I would not have done it. I probably voted for another republican. But know that I know republicans are as crooked as the socialist I would not vote. I voted for MCCain what a scumbag he turned out to be. only the unloved hate

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #918347 08/12/17 11:51 PM 08/12/17 11:51 PM
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blueracing347 Underboss Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 921	If the presidents of the past weren't so easy going on that noko monster, we wouldn't be in this predicament. At least we have the right person in office at this time. I could only imagine how Oak's pinup girl would react. I say let them hit California first, then we strike back with fire and fury. California wants to separate anyways.

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #918352 08/13/17 01:15 AM 08/13/17 01:15 AM
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Binnie_Coll Underboss Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 3,021 far, northwest	no. korea is bluffing, he knows [un] that his country would be dust if he hit guam, hes nothing but a demented dog, who needs to be taught a lesson, you watch, he will back down, " watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: Footreads] #918359 08/13/17 05:19 AM 08/13/17 05:19 AM
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Giacomo_Vacari Underboss Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,826 Larry's Bar	Originally Posted By: Footreads Don't be afraid I voted for him and contributed to his campaign. I I was afraid I would not have done it. I probably voted for another republican. But know that I know republicans are as crooked as the socialist I would not vote. I voted for MCCain what a scumbag he turned out to be. McCain has more balls and brains then the whole GOP combined. I do think back to 2008, maybe I should have looked pass Alaska. On Dump, Little Hands is a kid with a lot of power at his finger tips, even fatso in North Korea, but NK will backdown cause China and Russia will not support that action, just watch, those two countries help NK financially. "I have this Nightmare. I'm on 5th avenue watching the St. Patrick's Day parade and I have a coronary and nine thousand cops march happily over my body." Chief Sidney Green

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #918373 08/13/17 05:02 PM 08/13/17 05:02 PM
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olivant O Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 15,032 Texas	On Sunday Report, CIA Director Tom Pompeo told Chris Wallace that there was no imminent threat of a nuclear exchange. However, he was quite unclear about what the CIA believes is N. Korea's delivery capability. He only stated that N. Korea has made significant progress. On the other hand, Gordon Chang told Maria Bartiromo that N. Korea has a delivery system and nuclear warhead. I don't know which to believe. The effective delivery of a nuclear weapon to its target is quite complex. The guidance system alone is an immense challenge. Why target Guam when Japan is only about 500-600 miles away? In any case, nothing's going to impede N. Korea's development of a deliverable nuclear weapon short of a US attack on N. Korea. Last edited by olivant; 08/13/17 05:03 PM. "Generosity. That was my first mistake." "Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us." "Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #918374 08/13/17 05:13 PM 08/13/17 05:13 PM
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Faithful1 Underboss Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,841 OC, CA	Why target Guam? Because it's a nearby U.S. territory and not a separate country like Japan. I don't think the U.S. will do a first strike on NK. China already said that if the U.S. does that it will support NK, but if NK strikes it will stay out of it. That's a huge change from the Mao era when China supported NK's aggression. That plus the strong sanctions that China agreed to show that today's China is different. It doesn't want to get into a war with the U.S., especially since it owns so much of the American debt. Somehow what I think needs to happen is for China, Russia, South Korea, Japan and the U.S. to form an alliance against NK. Not by going to war against NK, but by putting pressure to support those who would get rid of the Kim dynasty. Not saying that it would happen with the current set of political leaders, but with smart leaders and intelligent horse-trading, it is theoretically possible.

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: Faithful1] #918376 08/13/17 05:40 PM 08/13/17 05:40 PM
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Ciment C Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 14,133	Originally Posted By: Faithful1 Why target Guam? Because it's a nearby U.S. territory and not a separate country like Japan. I don't think the U.S. will do a first strike on NK. China already said that if the U.S. does that it will support NK, but if NK strikes it will stay out of it. That's a huge change from the Mao era when China supported NK's aggression. That plus the strong sanctions that China agreed to show that today's China is different. It doesn't want to get into a war with the U.S., especially since it owns so much of the American debt. Somehow what I think needs to happen is for China, Russia, South Korea, Japan and the U.S. to form an alliance against NK. Not by going to war against NK, but by putting pressure to support those who would get rid of the Kim dynasty. Not saying that it would happen with the current set of political leaders, but with smart leaders and intelligent horse-trading, it is theoretically possible. What you have have stated is perfectly logical and make a lot of sense but unfortunately this NK dictator is not of right mind and will never give up his nukes. The longer the U.S waits the more nukes NK will have. I am one of those few that believes the the U.S will have no choice but to strike. China will remain neutral provided that the U.S promises not to occupy NK.

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #918383 08/13/17 07:49 PM 08/13/17 07:49 PM
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Footreads F Underboss Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,401	For years I thought North Korea did not have a nuke. Because all their testing is underground. If you put enough regular explosive under ground and light it up, it could read like you tested a nuke. only the unloved hate

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: Ciment] #918386 08/13/17 08:48 PM 08/13/17 08:48 PM
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Faithful1 Underboss Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,841 OC, CA	Originally Posted By: Ciment Originally Posted By: Faithful1 Why target Guam? Because it's a nearby U.S. territory and not a separate country like Japan. I don't think the U.S. will do a first strike on NK. China already said that if the U.S. does that it will support NK, but if NK strikes it will stay out of it. That's a huge change from the Mao era when China supported NK's aggression. That plus the strong sanctions that China agreed to show that today's China is different. It doesn't want to get into a war with the U.S., especially since it owns so much of the American debt. Somehow what I think needs to happen is for China, Russia, South Korea, Japan and the U.S. to form an alliance against NK. Not by going to war against NK, but by putting pressure to support those who would get rid of the Kim dynasty. Not saying that it would happen with the current set of political leaders, but with smart leaders and intelligent horse-trading, it is theoretically possible. What you have have stated is perfectly logical and make a lot of sense but unfortunately this NK dictator is not of right mind and will never give up his nukes. The longer the U.S waits the more nukes NK will have. I am one of those few that believes the the U.S will have no choice but to strike. China will remain neutral provided that the U.S promises not to occupy NK. China has made it clear that if the U.S. strikes first it will side with NK. Moreover, Kim made it known that he will immediately attack Seoul, which has almost ten million people. Is it worth the gamble for this demon to kill more people in a single strike in world history? Kim Jong Un is a combination spoiled brat, narcissist, sociopath, and paranoid. He reminds me of the boy on the Twilight Zone played by Billy Mumy, who had the power to do anything he wanted and everyone else lived in fear. It was probably an analogy for Josef Stalin (who helped set up the Kim dynasty). What's needed is for his own military to rise up against him, just like how the military toppled the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Not saying it's what likely to happen, but it's what should happen.

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: Faithful1] #918399 08/13/17 11:34 PM 08/13/17 11:34 PM
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Ciment C Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 14,133	I know China has made it clear that if the U.S. strikes first it will side with NK but I don't think they will get involved. It wouldn't be wise for them economically and militarily. If U.S strikes first NK nukes will be taken down. NK threat to SK will be fought with convention weapons/ missiles and the death toll can be in the tens of thousands but not in the millions. On the other hand if the U.S kicks the can for another administration to handle NK; then the death toll in the future will be on american soil instead of Seoul or abroad.

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: Ciment] #918449 08/14/17 10:16 PM 08/14/17 10:16 PM
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Binnie_Coll Underboss Joined: Aug 2014 Posts: 3,021 far, northwest	Originally Posted By: Ciment I know China has made it clear that if the U.S. strikes first it will side with NK but I don't think they will get involved. It wouldn't be wise for them economically and militarily. If U.S strikes first NK nukes will be taken down. NK threat to SK will be fought with convention weapons/ missiles and the death toll can be in the tens of thousands but not in the millions. On the other hand if the U.S kicks the can for another administration to handle NK; then the death toll in the future will be on american soil instead of Seoul or abroad. i think you are right, we should strike first, take out his nukes, and prevent a much larger blood bath in the future " watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #918490 08/15/17 03:03 PM 08/15/17 03:03 PM
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Footreads F Underboss Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,401	I don't think China would side with North Korea. How much money do they make selling to North Korea? Compare that to how much money china makes selling to the United States? only the unloved hate

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #918491 08/15/17 03:06 PM 08/15/17 03:06 PM
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Footreads F Underboss Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,401	Bin we can't strike first the socialist liberals living here would not like it. Actually I would not strike first either and I am no liberal. But we should make a move to kill that fat bastard. only the unloved hate

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #919068 08/29/17 12:20 AM 08/29/17 12:20 AM
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Faithful1 Underboss Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,841 OC, CA	Scary. North Korea is escalating tensions by firing a missile over Japan. This is serious. http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/28/politics/north-korea-launch-unidentified-projectile/index.html

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #919070 08/29/17 02:38 AM 08/29/17 02:38 AM
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Footreads F Underboss Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,401	Want to stop that now give Japan a cruse missle nuke. They feel threatened they can use it. only the unloved hate

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: Faithful1] #919118 08/30/17 07:02 AM 08/30/17 07:02 AM
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Ciment C Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 14,133	Originally Posted By: Faithful1 Scary. North Korea is escalating tensions by firing a missile over Japan. This is serious. http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/28/politics/north-korea-launch-unidentified-projectile/index.html I agree this is serious. At one point China will have to decide what to do with North Korea. If China continues to back North Korea they risk alienating themselves from the rest of the world and will suffer economically. China will have to get involved and help U.S resolve this issue. Kicking the can down the road will only make things worse.

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #919126 08/30/17 11:28 AM 08/30/17 11:28 AM
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Footreads F Underboss Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,401	suppose we put a tariff on any goods coming in from china even if they were made by order of American companies. So now we can make things here for the same price. Then tell our people to be patriotic and just buy American made. If china does not help end the Korean threat. Do you think china wants to risk not selling here. Do you think china would be willing to end the American gravy train for Korea? only the unloved hate

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #919132 08/30/17 02:22 PM 08/30/17 02:22 PM
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Faithful1 Underboss Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,841 OC, CA	China has actually gotten tougher with North Korea. It supported UN sanctions (so did Russia) and said it would ban coal imports. It's not perfect, but a lot tougher than it used to be. China doesn't want a war. http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy...ons-north-korea

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #919136 08/30/17 04:17 PM 08/30/17 04:17 PM
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Footreads F Underboss Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,401	I know that faithful but n.korea flying one right over Japan is risky for everyone. Someone said china wants no part of a nuclear Japan. We give them a few and china would do anything to stop it even kill the crazy in n.korea. only the unloved hate

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #919158 08/30/17 10:04 PM 08/30/17 10:04 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 4,461 Green Grove Retirement Communi... OakAsFan Underboss
OakAsFan Underboss Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 4,461 Green Grove Retirement Communi...	As evidenced by this thread, who should Californians feel more threatened by? Kim Jong, or the American Right? We're being threatened by both. "...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: OakAsFan] #919176 08/31/17 05:42 AM 08/31/17 05:42 AM
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Ciment C Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 14,133	Originally Posted By: OakAsFan As evidenced by this thread, who should Californians feel more threatened by? Kim Jong, or the American Right? We're being threatened by both. Californians are destroying themselves with the leftist liberals. Govenor Brown... need not say more !!!

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #919177 08/31/17 05:54 AM 08/31/17 05:54 AM
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Footreads F Underboss Joined: May 2014 Posts: 4,401	If I was the Korean California would be a mess by now. Wait California is already a mess. People who are afraid of a threat made by him are a bunch of sheep any way. Maybe we should send all our transgenders to North Korea to stop him. only the unloved hate

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #919182 08/31/17 06:35 AM 08/31/17 06:35 AM
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blueracing347 Underboss Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 921	Hey Oak. How would Hilary have handled N. Korea? We already know how Obama handled it for eight years.

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #919204 08/31/17 03:42 PM 08/31/17 03:42 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 4,461 Green Grove Retirement Communi... OakAsFan Underboss
OakAsFan Underboss Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 4,461 Green Grove Retirement Communi...	BTW, my comment was mostly tongue in cheek. I don't believe North Korea is a threat anyway. I think Trump was hyping it up to distract from all of his other embarrassments and potential scandals. White supremacists in America are another story. "...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: OakAsFan] #919210 08/31/17 04:19 PM 08/31/17 04:19 PM
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Ciment C Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 14,133	Originally Posted By: OakAsFan BTW, my comment was mostly tongue in cheek. I don't believe North Korea is a threat anyway. I think Trump was hyping it up to distract from all of his other embarrassments and potential scandals. White supremacists in America are another story. If he is not a threat then why were the previous administrations including Clinton giving North Korean regime billions of dollars. It must must be for Kim Jong Un's family good looks and fancy hair cuts.

Re: USA-North Korea war is possible? [Re: furio_from_naples] #919271 09/01/17 01:23 AM 09/01/17 01:23 AM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 4,461 Green Grove Retirement Communi... OakAsFan Underboss
OakAsFan Underboss Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 4,461 Green Grove Retirement Communi...	I don't know why previous regimes gave North Korea money, or if they did. Fake news, remember? Anyhow, I don't think North Korea is a nuclear threat to the United States. Trump brings up North Korea whenever one of his other embarrassments become news. "...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea

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