2 registered members (Capri, Toodoped),
287
guests, and 3
spiders. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums21
Topics42,442
Posts1,061,027
Members10,349
|
Most Online992 Jun 1st, 2024
|
|
|
Re: NBA Season 2015-16
[Re: goombah]
#882292
04/28/16 11:05 AM
04/28/16 11:05 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762 Anytown, USA
goombah
OP
|
OP
![](/ubb/5stars.gif)
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762
Anytown, USA
|
Getthesenets, Well put about Curry's talent. It would translate to any era. I just think he would've been smacked around a lot more 20 years ago. I'm not a fan of the current players hugging each other and all being so friendly. I loved the fierce rivalries between the Lakers/Celtics, Pistons/Bulls, and Sixers/Celtics. Do you remember Tree Rollins biting Danny Ainge? You & I would have been sports enemies in the 80s. ![smile smile](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/smile.gif) My favorite player was Dr. J. Other than 1983, Boston usually had the 76ers number. I think 1983 was the last year that the NBA Finals were shown on a delay. Hard to imagine now.
|
|
|
Re: NBA Season 2015-16
[Re: getthesenets]
#883170
05/11/16 09:31 AM
05/11/16 09:31 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762 Anytown, USA
goombah
OP
|
OP
![](/ubb/5stars.gif)
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762
Anytown, USA
|
The Cavs bench is much better this year than last season. Even though he's been hampered much of the season, Moe Williams is an improvement over Mike Miller at guard. And Richard Jefferson is an enormous upgrade over Shawn Marion. Frye took the roster spot of Varaejo and is contributing in a big way.
J.R. Smith is most effective when he is the 3rd or 4th option. When the Cavs were forced to have J.R. be the #2 scorer in the Finals, it was a disaster. Agree....except for RJ....dude played for the Nets ....superathletic guy (in his youth) but extremely limited with NO heart. When motivated, he can be a decent defender though Is Mo Williams hurt? Jefferson knows his role here. Why I said an enormous upgrade over Marion is the RJ is playing well enough to allow LeBron to get some rest. Marion was running on fumes last year and was very ineffective. Mo Williams has been battling a knee problem since December. He sits out for long stretches of games and then comes back for a couple. But he filled in at the beginning of the season when Kyrie was recovering. If he can get healthy, he's an effective spot scorer off the bench. Dellavedova is better defensively than Mo, but Delly is not much on offense. Who do you think gives Golden State more matchup problems in the Western Conf Finals? I think Pop's coaching is a huge advantage, but Westbrook will make Curry work way harder than he has so far.
|
|
|
Re: NBA Season 2015-16
[Re: getthesenets]
#883176
05/11/16 11:17 AM
05/11/16 11:17 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762 Anytown, USA
goombah
OP
|
OP
![](/ubb/5stars.gif)
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762
Anytown, USA
|
I love your insight, Getthesenets. You are very knowledgable. ![smile smile](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/smile.gif) The Patriots comparison is very interesting. Part of why I asked the question has been, as you pointed out, the poor play of Duncan, Ginobli, and Parker. But Leondard and Aldridge are carrying the team now. I have similar concerns about OKC that they are only Durant & Westbrook. No team should have to rely on Dion Waiters, which is why I think LeBron & Kyrie were thrilled to get rid of him last season. I heard a very interesting point on the radio last night coming home from work. If the Spurs do advance, look for Popovich to be lobbying the league and its officials to watch for all of the illegal screens that Draymond Green sets. Much like the quick illegal picks the Patriots have been running for years...
|
|
|
Re: NBA Season 2015-16
[Re: getthesenets]
#883691
05/18/16 04:14 PM
05/18/16 04:14 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762 Anytown, USA
goombah
OP
|
OP
![](/ubb/5stars.gif)
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762
Anytown, USA
|
Goombah,
That's one of those 10 point plays, box score will say it was 3 points(basket and foul shot)...but it deflated the Raptors to the tune of 10 points.
Has Lebron regained some of his athleticism? That play was from his his early career repertoire. From back when he'd throw pinpoint passes through traffic only to have Carlos Boozer bobble them. Agree 100%. Even though that play happened in the 2nd quarter, it essentially ended the game. The Raptors just played out the string the rest of the game. I'm cautiously optimistic and it's only one game. But Toronto looked exhausted last night. Too many easy, close shots for the Cavs. Toronto kept Cleveland off the 3 point line, but traded that for a ton of dunks and layups. I do expect Toronto to look better once the series shifts to their homecourt. But it may not be enough to keep this series past five games. LeBron is as fresh now as I've ever seen him. He has logged significantly less playoff minutes this year and does not have to carry his team. I think LeBron's back was really a problem last year and it impacted all parts of his game. But LeBron looks like he's 25 right now and his confidence in his teammates is very evident.
|
|
|
Re: NBA Season 2015-16
[Re: goombah]
#883698
05/18/16 07:00 PM
05/18/16 07:00 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,989
getthesenets
Underboss
|
Underboss![](/ubb/2stars.gif)
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,989
|
Goombah, What's your honest take on coach Tyronn Lue*? Or is that a fair question since they haven't been challenged in the playoffs...yet? I ask because, he doesn't have the cache of an established coach, but I thought he should have been lobbying for closer officiating of the rough stuff after game 1. Refs have been terrible this playoffs, and the parts that I watched...Raptors players were doing fake tough guy tactics. I respect hard playoff fouls and the no layup rule but I saw somebody knock Lebron in the head...keystone cop refs had a huddle and ruled it a regular foul. *If Coach Lue wins a ring, Iverson stepping over him in the Finals will be the SECOND thing people think of when they see his face. ![smile smile](/threads/images/graemlins/classic/smile.gif)
|
|
|
Re: NBA Season 2015-16
[Re: goombah]
#883703
05/18/16 09:28 PM
05/18/16 09:28 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762 Anytown, USA
goombah
OP
|
OP
![](/ubb/5stars.gif)
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762
Anytown, USA
|
Getthesenets, I'll be the first one to admit that I was not in favor of firing Blatt. It's not a criticism of Lue, but not an endorsement of Blatt either. I thought - and still do - it was a move to appease whiny superstars. And at the time, I thought it was just convenient for the players to place the blame for uneven play on Blatt. I think Blatt was good for the team he was hired to coach - before LeBron returned. He took a team to the Finals & then had a 30-11 record. But for many reasons, Blatt never had the respect of his team. IMHO, the NBA - more so than MLB & the NFL - is less reliant on a coach. For examples, see GS from the past two years, Miami, & OKC as prime examples. Having said all that, Lue HAS made a positive impact. It took awhile, but he has found two good rotation sets. The players respect him as an ex-player. Lue stood up to LeBron & challenged Love. He has not panicked when the Cavs have been down & hasn't over-used LeBron like every other coach LeBron has had. Lue came highly recommended by Doc Rivers, so he has the possibility of being a very good coach. And possibly putting the Iverson image forever in the rearview mirror. Lue told LeBron to STFU soon after taking over as Cavs head coach.
Last edited by goombah; 05/19/16 12:26 PM.
|
|
|
Re: NBA Season 2015-16
[Re: goombah]
#883876
05/23/16 08:39 AM
05/23/16 08:39 AM
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762 Anytown, USA
goombah
OP
|
OP
![](/ubb/5stars.gif)
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,762
Anytown, USA
|
I agree - LeBron is a coach killer. Any coach without a backbone is afraid to stand up to him. It remains to be seen whether Lue has one, but it's encouraging so far.
I will never like LeBron after what he did in 2010. By far, the thing that I dislike the most is his constant whining every time he is called for a foul. In Miami, he tried to get Spoelstra fired, but Riley & Wade had more credibility because of their previous rings.
Last year was a testament to LeBron's greatness. Kerr should have been fired had they lost to the Cavs. Cleveland was forced to play a 7 man rotation, so all GS had to do was run them up and down the court. Even with the 7 players, Shumpert essentially played the Finals with one arm. So to take GS to 6 games was nearly miraculous.
************ Back to 2016, Draymond Green should be suspended for Game 4 of the Western Conf Finals for his kick to Adams. The refs have been terrible all postseason and should have tossed him from Game 3. But the league office needs to step in and say that the refs blew the call and suspend Green.
|
|
|
|