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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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Strocos - what are you on drugs? Buffalo/Niagara has more, get educated brother
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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lol im good, just funny to me how some guys are on this board. What do I know though
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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Strocos - what are you on drugs? Buffalo/Niagara has more, get educated brother just check the us census data , next time I am in Ny we can meet at pg's club if u want
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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Ok, Im going to go and check the US census data right now and report back to you. Can you meet at pgs tonight or this weekend to go over the data I find?
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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Ok, Im going to go and check the US census data right now and report back to you. Can you meet at pgs tonight or this weekend to go over the data I find? what club is it ?
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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You should know if you ask someone to meet you there no?...how about 3 tomorrow?
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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OC in today's day and age operates on a totally different from 20-30 years ago due to advancements in Technology and most of all ,RICO STATUTE !! They have adapted,Learned,shifted from what used to be.They were hammered by RICO and they were basically a 2nd government almost,At one time they almost rivaled the U.S. Government and operated at the highest levels uninterrupted for many many years,Finally the RICO statute is invented and passed and the Mob was brought down to manageable levels ! Its literally Insane at the Raw Power,and ,Levels they were able to reach.But,in No way is OC gone from Buffalo,Detroit,or many of these cities,communities ,States that these MORONS would lead people to believe ! There are many many other matters Law enforcement and the Media have to deal with today,And, This isn't the 1980s or 1990s , How the fuck is there supposed to be BIG HEADLINES ? These guys are not Idiots,They learned big time, and you need certain elements to build RICO CASES !! They know what brings Heat ! They operate the way they were supposed to, in silence, quietly money over violence ! And when people say, Only GAMBLING AND SHY !! WHAT FUCKEN WORLD DO YOU PEOPLE LIVE IN ? ARE YOUIN THE TWILIGHT ZONE ? SPORTS GAMBLING ALONE RIVALS,IF NOT BIGGER THAN THE DRUG GAME !! In THE U.S.ALONE SPORTS GAMBLING IS A 200-300 PLUS BILLION DOLLAR A YEAR BUSINESS,PROBABLY MORE AS IT IS ESTIMATED THAT U.S. RESIDENTS ILLEGALLY WAGER OVER 300 BILLION ALONE ON ONE GAME IN ONE SPORT, THE SUPERBOWL !! THE GLOBAL DRUG MARKET ANNUALLY IS PEGGED AT JUST OVER 350 BILLION !! I ALSO POSTED THREADS ON THE TEAMSTERS AND LABOR UNIONS IN U. S.OVER THE LAST 16 YEARS AND IT IS SUPPOSEDLY MORE CORRUPT NOW THAN IN THE SO CALLED MOB HEYDAY/GOLDEN AGE, 2000 PLUS CASES,INDICTMENTS IN A 9 YEAR PERIOD 2001-2010 !! OH, AND I GUESS AFTER 70-80-90-100 PLUS YEARS,TRADITIONS,HONOR,VALUES,A WAY OF LIFE AND ALL THAT MONEY TO BE MADE THE FAMILIES JUST RETIRED AND PACKED IT IN !!
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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Read this here... http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/04/biggest-illegal-businesses-business-crime_slide_2.html And there was recently a European report released, and even though it was incomplete, drugs was tops there too.... I might make a thread on this. Sports gambling IS NOT BIGGER THAN DRUGS. Jesus Christ, only like NY region people think this. Drugs is THE business of OC, in this day and age. There is a reason the government legalized numbers. Everyone from a regular worker to housewives plays the numbers. Maybe even multiple times a day, 365 DAYS A YEAR!!!! Not half the year for football season, or basketball, or just the weekends. And let's talk about weekends. You really think there are MORE people betting' than say, dancing their life away at some club with a gram of coke? And remember, I'm talking women as well as men here. And even the age demographic has to be considered. I can guarantee you there are more kids, in either high school or college trying to get some loud, or coke, or a pill, or even a fuckin cigarette ( Illinois recently raised the age to 21, think of the bootleggers who sell cigs on the street, or even to legal distributors) than trying to place a bet. This is something Saviano touches on in his book. Drugs aren't limited to just one sector of society anymore. You remember on the Sopranos when the daughter was doing speed to get into college? That's the shit I mean. You have ANY idea how many upper-middle class to rich kids I know who study on Adderall? Just tonight, my guy, a high class type, his sister had Two weddings, one overseas, all kinda money spent on renting a mansion, just bullshit. Dude, All the chicks wanted Xanax. ( however you spell it lol) And all his best customers for loud are like these college educated types that live in the loop. They buy like fuckin clockwork. Not that sports don't bring it in, but come on now. Guns make more. Oil makes more. Counterfeiting makes a fuckin ton. I honestly think that estimation is off,but if you got stats to back you up, I'm all ears. ( Or eyes, in this case lol) Edit: Here's an article that sort of echoes how I see it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/sp...335c_story.html But look, I could be wrong about this. It just seems like the world is awash in drugs. To me it seems like they shoulda legalized it a long time ago, look at the race wire and the aforementioned lottery. Like it seems to me the teams must be MUCH MORE TIED INTO THE GAMBLING RINGS THAN IS REALLY REPORTED. WHY would they lobby to KEEPit illegal? Why leave all that money on the table. Look at fantasy sports in NY. It got to big to ignore, what's the deal with sports books? There was a thread about mob ties to the NFL, there might be nore to this than people realize, otherwise it actually makes very little sense...
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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Good article. I'm going to have to go to La Nova Pizzeria if I'm ever in Buffalo. its decent pie. not sure i go out of my way to get it. But Todaro jr is a very nice guy.
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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I don't think I re-hashed this I seen Roosters posts and Giacomo's posts and they seem packed with good solid information.
Just to note, there is no evidence to either of those user's posts. I am not saying explicitly that it is not true, just that there is no evidence to it. Also, the argument on the other thread starting with a discussion about defunct families. I mentioned that Buffalo, along with many other families, was not thought to be an active family, and Rooster called me "delusional"
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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Appreciate the contributions rooster i was born in Yonkers and moved to southern Connecticut when i was 15 so most of my family is between Ct Ny and Jersey so i dont know shit about the mob in buffalo but its not unbelievable to me that theres still a small family operating to an extent in that area seems like plenty of money to be made ive been up there on a few occasions with a friend of mine to do some business with a cousin of his that lives up there needless to say had a great lunch up there at a place called the red coach inn i think it was been a couple years so i might be off qith the name on that one but had a great dinner at a italian joint up there Michaels its been around for a while i guess the food was excellent there was six of us and we had a great time i would definetely go back if i was up that way again anyways i enjoy your posts i dont think anything major is up there but i believe a small family is still making moves and with the italian population and the willingness of alotta young guys these days i bet if they wanted too they could probably make some guys thats just my 2 cents i could be totally wrong u just got me thinking when i saw your post about the restaurant i thought about when we used to go up that way . HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE BB AND YOUR FAMILIES!!! Michael's on Pine Ave. in Niagara Falls--best Lasagna ever!
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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I have no problems with Giacomo. He's the most helpful person here when it comes to west coast information. The pieces of his information that I've googled check out. Some of it I eventually read about in books or articles. Some people were accusing him of applying content from a fictional movie to information in one of his comments. I looked at the comment they were talking about and it seemed rather trivial. So, meh.
Anyhow, if I'm ever lucky enough to visit Buffalo, I 'll have to check out this pizzeria. These guys got out of the rackets to run this place. That's how successful it is. People must be lined up down the block. It really is unbelievable how busy they are at the West Ferry location. Great Pie!!
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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yes, nuts. Not my favorite, I go Francos over La Nova
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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Fortunas in the Falls is good, Como fell off in my opinion about 5 years ago
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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https://www.cosanostranews.com/2017/11/is-buffalo-cosa-nostra-family-mafias.html Is Buffalo Cosa Nostra Family the Mafia's Dark Horse? Based on a recent bust involving members of the Gambino and Bonanno crime families in which more than a dozen alleged members and associates of organized crime were arrested as part of a sweeping investigation into the fentanyl trade in Canada and New York, it seems the Buffalo crew is alive and well. Or was.... The following information was sent from a source. In indicates that the Buffalo crime family is definitely larger and more organized than many have believed. Last week's bust no doubt has taken a toll on the crime family. Yet who'd have guessed its heft? And if could be big, who else is thriving in the US, off the radar....? Boss Frank BiFulco Underboss Joe Violi (Canada Faction) Consigliere Victor Sansanese Capos Frank Falzone- Buffalo, Six soldiers, took over BiFulco crew. Anthony Todaro Buffalo, Eight soldiers, took over when his brother Joe Jr retired. Natale Luppino Hamilton, Canada, Nine soldiers, took over crew when Violi was moved up to Underboss, who in turn had taken over when Vincent Luppino passed away in 2009. Bruno Monaco Toronto, Canada Five soldiers, took over when Dante Gasbarrini passed away. Gasbarrini became Capo when Paul Volpe was killed, and to get away from Giacomo Luppino and John Papalia of Hamilton. Russell Carcone Utica Six soldiers Loren Piccarreto/Anthony Chirico- Rochester, Five soldiers. When Thomas Marotta came back in the 1990's, he decided to join the Bonanno family and took half of the independent family with him to the Bonanno family. After what happened up in Hamiliton with John Papalia, Rene Piccarreto decided to be more friendlier with Buffalo. When Joe "Lead Pipe Joe" Todaro retired in 2006, Angelo Amico decided to rejoin the Buffalo Family. Robert Panaro Las Vegas No soldiers, Panaro is direct with the family administration and other capos. "About 12 to 15 members are retired," our source noted. So about 40 made members are still active in Buffalo. In light of all the busts and heat, that's something, you ask me.....
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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@Hollander.... Yes, most people in Buffalo believe that the Ciminellis were connected to the Buffalo mob. Some still believe they are. Louis P. Ciminelli was named, along with several other made members and associates of the Buffalo Crime Family, in a lawsuit agains that LIUNA Local 210 pension fund where he served as a trustee. Here is the quote from the top of a court document: SOUTHMARK PRIME PLUS, L.P., a Delaware Limited Partnership; SOUTHMARK EQUITY PARTNERS III, LTD., a California Limited Partnership; SOUTHMARK INVESTMENT GROUP 86, INC., a Nevada Corporation; and PRIME PLUS CORP., INC., a Nevada Corporation, Plaintiffs, v. LEONARD F. FALZONE; BUFFALO LABORERS' PENSION FUND; LABORERS' INTERNATIONAL UNION OF NORTH AMERICA, LOCAL #210; REALCAP COMPANY, a Texas General Partnership; QUANTUM REALTY CORP., a Delaware Corporation; CONCAP MANAGEMENT L.P., an Illinois Limited Partnership; WILLIAM R. ARNOLD; SALVATORE J. CACI; LOUIS P. CIMINELLI; JOHN A. DOYLE; PETER G. GERACE; EDWARD D. HERRICK; JAMES C. LOGAN; TERRY L. MOEBEL; JOSEPH R. PIERI; ROBERT C. PATTERSON; and DANIEL J. SANSANESE, Defendants
Civil Action No. 91-127-JLL
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF DELAWARE
776 F. Supp. 888; 1991 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 15426; Fed. Sec. L. Rep. (CCH) P96,448 This was a Securities Law and RICO case. The document goes on to state: JAMES LATCHUM, SENIOR UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
This is an action brought by two real estate limited partnerships and their managing general partners against a host of defendants, alleging [**2] violations of the federal securities laws and the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act ("RICO"), arising from a threatened proxy contest. This is not the first suit between the parties, and possibly not the last. The facts of this case are involved and will be addressed in greater detail infra at section II.A. The whole document can be found here: CIMINELLI involved in Local 210 RICOAdditionally Ron Fino definitely identifies Louis' father, Frank as "connected" in some fashion. I think it is safe to assume his son Louis was "connected" as well. Here it the quote from his book The Triangle Exit: By now we had developed good alter-ego cases against around 20 western New York contractors and we were getting ready to file a legal suit against them. Joey Pizza and Leonard Falzone compelled me to drop the cases against Ciminelli Construction and Frank Ciminelli, who was connected, and the Mader Corporation run by Lawrence Reger (a Buffalo businessman indirectly controlled by the family) who made a fortune for the mob cleaning up the Love Canal hazardous waste. Falzone spoke in a nice manner, which was rare, “You know they are connected Ron and know that their construction companies are off limits.â€
Fino, Ronald; Michael Rizzo. Covert Operations: The Triangle Exit: The True Story of a Secret Undercover Operative for the FBI and CIA (Organized Crime) (Kindle Locations 2825-2827). Contento De Semrik. Kindle Edition. Does this mean Louis is still connected? If the family is dead... There is your answer. If by chance the family is active, then there is at least a possibility he is connected given the Buffalo Billion Scandal. One thing is clear, he learned how to act like LCN and do some bid-rigging when he served as at trustee of mobbed up 210 in the 90's. Here is a picture of Frank "Bucky" Ciminelli (right) with Magaddino drug trafficker Philip Napoli (left) in Reno in 1972. I believe this picture is further evidence that Fino is correct in his indication that Frank "Bucky" Ciminelli was connected. This picture was given to me by Buffalo area Lawyer William Gary Iannaccone whose mother is in it. He believes they were laundering money invested in bonds from his Dad's VA pension. His uncle Joseph Pezzino (see quote below) was a made member of the Buffalo Crime Family. Here is what Iannaccone states: John Mallon, my long-time friend, who worked for the IRS, reviewed the evidence including the IRS Returns; pictures of my mother in Las Vagas in 1972; forged Prudential check made out to me cashed at the M&T Bank with my mother signing my name & my Uncle Joseph Pezzino as second endorser & Affidavit by Evelyn Jimerson (nee Cenname) (former married name Harcrow) (subsribed on 3/29/04) verifying her knowledge of my father and mother's legal separation, the 65 wills made by Arthur F. Musarra and that one million dollars in US Bonds belonging to my father-derived from his VA disability funds from 1945 -1972- was transferred to my mother in 1972. (PLEASE see Harcrow Affifdavit below in comments) John Mallon said the most likely scenario is that the million dollars was laundered in a casino with my mother's permission and the aid of her cousin Phil Napoli in 1972, by reporting it as gambled away by me using my SS# on the 1972 IRS returns. My father's funds were then allegedly invested into Samuel's Grande Manor in 1978 http://SamuelsGrandeManor.comPlease See Chronology of Evidence for Million Dollar Recovery
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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http://mafiamembershipcharts.blogspot.it/search/label/Buffalo?updated-max=2017-11-07T03:51:00-08:00&max-results=20&start=2&by-date=false
1. Amoia-Sam 2. BiFulco-Frank 1945 3. Brindisi-Pasquale Paddy 1942 Utica 4. Cannizzaro-Annunzio Red 5. Carcone-Russell 1954 Utica 6. Cardinale-Ronald 7. Caruso-Corrado Cookie Canada 8. Chimera-Robert 1936 9. Cipolla-Paul Canada 10. Corelli-Phillip 1963- Utica 11. Criminisi-Ralph Canada 12. DePaolo-Bruno Bronzie 1967 Canada 13. DePaolo-Joseph Joey Dips Canada 14. DePaolo-Michael Canada 15. Falzone-Frank 1950 16. Feliciano-James 1977 Utica 17. Ferraro-Frank 1943 Utica 18. Gasbarinni-Daniel Canada 19. Giglia-William 1946 20. Inserra-Anthony 1946 Utica 21. Italiano-Dominic Canada 22. Lombardo-Vincent Canada 23. Luppino-Anthony Canada 24. Luppino-John Canada 25. Luppino-Natale Canada 26. Luppino-Rocco Canada 27. Mambrino-Carmen 1969 28. Marino-Frank 1940 Utica 29. Minicone-Jack 1948 Utica 30. Monaco-Bruno Canada 31. Nappi-Donato Dan 1943 32. Papalia-Frank 1930 Canada 33. Papalia-Rocco 1935 Canada 34. Perri-Frank Canada 35. Pugliese-Anthony Canada 36. Pugliese-Joseph Canada 37. Pugliese-Pasquale Canada 38. Randazzo-Joseph
@ Furrio have you seen Joseph Pezzino listed as a made man on any of the Buffalo Crime Family lists?
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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I have a link to him interviewing relatives who indicate Joe Pezzino was made. Makes me think Buffalo was larger than some say, given the fact that these names are never mentioned. Makes me wonder how many more there were! EDIT: BTW, not to rain down a firestorm from the Buffalo haters, but Iannaccone believes Buffalo is still viable and the Ciminelli's are still connected. Take that for what its worth, because admittedly he has an axe to grind--that doesn't make him wrong though.
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Re: Buffalo Family in 2016
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Fortunas in the Falls is good, Como fell off in my opinion about 5 years ago @ Rooster: Como still has a mighty fine angel hair in vodka sauce. Yum!!
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