@ Smeary @guero

GoodPost guys.....

That clarifies some things for me. The thing on Sinaloa with the tunnels, I figure they still have massive capabilities of getting narcotics here, I just figured, looking at the writing on the wall with the border/immigration politics being at the forefront at the moment, it would be more expensive. And if they are already fighting an expensive, costly war, AND already have lost an invaluable revenue stream from the local retail trade, on top of this they seem to be losing the propaganda war, which in Mexico is VERY IMPORTANT. ( at least, it seems so, as far as getting the population to " believe" in the superiority of your criminal brand)


I'm not sure if Mexico controls the Caribbean route, the long time prevalence and success of Dominican traffickers on the NorthEast led me to believe they didn't. I feel like recent indictments, sort of back this up, you see huge heroin bust in NY, with cartel heroin, but no coke, likely cause the Dominicans have it sewn up. What I've been wondering is, is it STILL COLOMBIANS SUPPLYING THE DOMINICANS, or is it Mexicans?

Same with the Calabrians. I keep wondering where their coke comes from, like the recent bust Hollander posted about, the 8 tons inColombia. Is it Colombians or Mexicans in charge?

I find the European thing VERY INTERESTING. I gotta ask you, IS THAT ACTUALLY CORRECT? Do Mexican cartels supply Europe? Like, are they sending all that coke into the Netherlands? The reason I ask is that the Calabrians seem to be just as embedded in South America just as much as Mexicans,so where do the Calabrians end and the Mexicans begin? I can't understand how that works. Are you sure they have that reach, I'm not sure they do actually.....

And I do get your point about Narco-politics. It's one of my long running themes of the board. I keep making the point that ALL of the violence in Canada, stems from Narco -politics, the shifting alliances and all that. And it all looks a lot like this, with the family blood relatives in control, almost always, even if the ties go back 30-40-50 years. Long established relationships.

How does New Jalisco fit into the international supply scene? Are they allied with Italians? Or do they have direct agents in Europe directing wholesale operations? Like say, the Netherlands, or Spain? I was under the impression Colombians took over the West African route, really the whole European trade.


Any info would be appreciated fellas...