There was no service .... can not go into why but no service.

Damn- no service. That's odd

I know Scarfo had good relations with the Genovese (and had his son Nicky Jr made into the Lucchese family so Joey Merlino won't be able to whack him), but what were his relationships with the other families (especially the DeCavalcante, New England, Gambino, Bonanno, and Colombo families) like?

During those years and the five years after there was the biggest shift in leadership in the mob since its conception .

If all the bosses were not all getting prepared for life sentences and the Feds did not have all the electronics to get these guys on tape weather it was free talk or a snitch trapping them it was a very scary time for them .

But if it was years prior all the snitches and turncoat would have been dealt with in all the families .

It was the beginning of the end !!!

What is the earliest that Nick Jr. can get out, considering he is a model prisoner?

I wonder what his plans will be at age 82? Did he and his dad have a final conversation with Sr. telling Jr., you HAVE to get Merlino for what he did to you and us.
If Jr. was able to hold power for his father in jail, the Stanfa-Merlino war may never have taken place...Believe that was a pipe dream though. No one respected Scarfo enough to keep fighting for his vision.

It would also be prettty crazy if Merlino is STILL the boss 30 years from now.
He could potentially be in power longer than Persico and Maggadino.

SOMEONE will make a move in 30 years time, come on, It's Philly!

Merlino will be in prison in 30 years if he's still alive. I don't see anyone making no moves on him, he's too high profiled and is probably being watched by the Feds 24/7 any way, so why risk it?

Nicky, Jr. will be 73 when he is released.

Yea, thats not happening.

So was there no funeral service for Nicky?

One quote sticks in my mind that Nick Caramandi said

"spike told me he would rather have trouble with 50 tough guys than Scarfo because he will never let u off"

Tony : if he had people behind him it never came out and Yogi was still coming around less but coming around .

His family and wife were down in Ventnor so he did not have to come far.


He did keep a apartment in Nicks moms building cos of the on again and off again relationship he had , and Yogi was a drinker also and loved the nightlife.

Phil always had a angle, he learned from his uncle that no matter what happens you make the fall out to benefit him .

Just like he is doing right now.


But the stuff about Chucky I never herd any proof or solid hearsay after , but it's not like now days you are waiting, back then it was different you did not pay it any mind.

But Skinny remembered everything Nick said and as soon as the entire family was locked up he started making his payback.

Chuckle was bad with booze and would drive from AC down beach with no thought .

Wonder if in the end scarfo had a slight respect for joey after killing his way to the top going to trial a few times for a couple murders and still being the boss to this day.

RE: Scarfo's murder of the longshoreman.

I'm pretty positive Scarfo started that fight by throwing his weight around and ordering the longshoreman out of his seat.

But by all means if someone starting a confrontation, escalating it, throwing the first punch and fatally stabbing someone after getting his ass handed to him is "self-defense" then so be it.

I'm also pretty positive I read Scarfo had company when it happened.

Just like Merlino and Gotti, it isn't the modus operandi of guys like Scarfo to fight one on one.

Gang assault is the name of the game.

Thanks Serp for the insight

Wasn't it just bad timing Nicky decided to pull down Chucky after all them yrs & not long after- they're all locked up. Joey would have had to share power with Nick jr possibly

And Scarfo that maniac really messed up playing the tough guy telling a roomful of guys," if he makes one move I'll kill him and his entire family"

Skinny definitely made him pay for them sleepless nights he caused

Nicky was with 2 others I believe one being Chuckie according to Leonetti

Scarfo fancied himself a tough guy and loved recounting that story... too bad he needed a dead Irish man to play the part

Not for nothing but scarfo was a boxer i believe gotti wasnt and merlino was a jockey. So scarfo probaly had better hands then most mob guys even if he was the size of connor McGregor

Think they were exactly the same size.

Yeah he was at a manic point ! He played by the rules and all the treason sine before Bruno must of been running through his mind.

But there had to be something he did not tell anyone that Chucky did , maybe he did tell Phil and that may be the only person that knows.

But he had the power to take him down without going to NY and I don't think he did go and touch back with anyone, but what do I know.

There is one thing if Chucky did not do anything then Nick seen something that was just weird behavior from Chuckie and Nick read it wrong .

There is all the guys in Philly that was in his ear and kept it up .

But yeah he was over the line saying he would make the whole family pay.

Most guys back in the day ( if you lived in a city) did some boxing. There was a boxing club on every corner. I am inclined to be skeptical of Scarfo's boxing skills.
Boxing has absolutely no barriers to entry and is very easy to become pro and create the illusion that you are a skilled fighter.
Look at chuck zito who claims he was a golden gloves fighter.. big deal!!! Anyone can enter the gloves. Did he actually win the gloves.? No

Belmont: I think you are right , Nick loved the sport but I never seen him in the courtyard of his property hitting a bag or even when the boys got older did not have heavy bags hanging in the yard under the porches or decks.( he did have pictures and gloves in his office and the big one he got from Rocky Marciano brother )

The time with the longshoremen I am sure he was pushed , he was the type to let you say something and walk away to wait a day or a year or ten years to come back at you.

And also about the longshoremen and Bruno banishing or not liking Nick is bullshit !!! And it's been told by family as bullshit for as long as I can remember.

Bruno would be at Nicks in the summer many times ..... trust me when you see the Boss of the Philly mob come down Georgia ave that in the summer would be packed with kids in the street cos the schoolyard was right there and we used it and the street as a ball field , so people would know when when Bruno was coming up the street not always but often.

Bruno kept Nick close cos of his uncles Bruno knew there was no love there so he had a edge keeping tract of the family on that end.

Nick was not banished he took over his skippers rackets and his family was here , it all came around the same time.

It's is not like every soldier was making a fortune in Philly back then so Nick knew that all the many many mob guys from NY and other groups were getting very old in AC and knew it would be all his.

Don't forget 20 years before Nick came here you had a major underworld figure evevy three blocks !!!!!

AC was no joke , it was loaded with mob guys cos it was excepted .

Every mayor did time or was totally involved in illegal activity until the 90s !!!!

McGregor is 5 ft. 9.

I've seen Scarfo listed everywhere from 5 ft. 2 to 5 ft. 6 but I'm inclined to believe he's around 5 ft. 4 cos he wore lifts.

So, no, Scarfo and McGregor are nowhere near the same height.

McGregor is the same height as Gotti and just one or two inches shorter than Gigante, Massino & Castellano - who are all considered tall.

Scarfo was a mean guy but when they stuck him in that Texas jail by the border... I bet he didn't dare bother anyone

& luckily for him he had money to hire two bodyguards who happened to be very loyal

Back then Mexico was a different place, if he tried that now. They'd likely blackmail him for all he has and still chop off his head- for fun

He had at least two of those guys employed as bodyguards even after he got of La Tuna. According to Mafia Prince, Scarfo & the two mexicans remained friends.

I don't know for sure, but maybe the Church would not do one because he had murders to his name? If I remember right, they did not do one for Gotti either.

They didn't do one for Galante.

That had nothing to do with why there was not one held.

Serp..Was'nt skinny razors territory also A.C.??...that would also make sense for nick...

So there was np funeral for Scarfo?

Yes and a few other things he grabbed from other ethnic mobsters.

I cant believe skinny's old Family Lounge is still operating @ 8th & Washington..run by a distant relative I assume,,very dingy inside!I know that's going off topic,sorry.