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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90514
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Quote:
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I think Jim Carrey is Brilliant
Oh, actually I didn't mind him! He IS brilliant (as usual), I did not like the.....the.....how should I call it? Movie packaging? Nahh....I'm sure this is not the word...anyway...I didn't like it.... :p


I don't want realism. I want magic! Yes, yes, magic. I try to give that to people. I do misrepresent things. I don't tell the truth. I tell what ought to be truth (Blanche/A streetcar named desire)
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Quote:
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I watched Frankie and Johnny last night. I didn't enjoy it that much, I think my expectations for it were too high I'll have to watch it again to give it a chance maybe it will grow on me.

I also bought Any Given Sunday so I will watch it sometime this weekend.
Debz, I must confess I had the same feelings. Total disappointment. Haven't rewatched it yet.
Tell us what you'll think of AGS!


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Never watched Any given sunday. As for Frankie and Johnny.....you know what? A romantic role for Al seems out of place to me....he got this huge dramatic (if not tragic) potential....really can't see him as a sweetheart.....Johnny has this difficult past, of course, which gives the role depht and intensity but....I don't know....still I think Al was mistcast. As for Pfeiffer, she is splendid as usual, even in those modest looks, and cold enough to depict a bitterly disappointed still young woman who is afraid of believing in love again. She is not that bad, but....she's too algid, as usual, and I'm not enough sympathetic with her role. I wonder how Meryl Streep could play the part.


I don't want realism. I want magic! Yes, yes, magic. I try to give that to people. I do misrepresent things. I don't tell the truth. I tell what ought to be truth (Blanche/A streetcar named desire)
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I like Pacino better in the dramatic roles, and did see Frankie & Johnny. I thought it was ok, and liked it better than Author Author, but still prefer his dramatic performances, especially his earlier ones.


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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90518
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Quote:
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A romantic role for Al seems out of place to me.... I think Al was mistcast.
Maybe that's why he turned down Pretty Woman? Imagine him as Edward Lewis!
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I wonder how Meryl Streep could play the part.
That's a great thought!
You make movies in your free time lady?
I can't stand Pfeiffer - she was so horribly vulgar in Married to the Mob...


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I thought it was ok, and liked it better than Author Author, but still prefer his dramatic performances
What was Author Author like? I've never seen it!


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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90520
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I have returned to my filmwatching ways after a worrying drought.

[b]Dune [no stars]
(1st Time)
1984, Lynch, US
The Atreides and Harkonnens battle on Arrakis for control of the spice mélange.
An incoherent mess. Verbose, convoluted, and mostly irrelevent, with only hints of the director's talent shown few and far between.

Mick [/b]
Mick I think a few weeks back I gave you some advice about skipping Dune and watch "Wild at Heart" instead.

Well as the old addage goes

I told you so

BTW Don't Skip Wild at Heart


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Imagine him as Edward Lewis!
ARGH!!!!!!!!!!! That would be like pineapple on pizza....DISASTER!!!!!


I don't want realism. I want magic! Yes, yes, magic. I try to give that to people. I do misrepresent things. I don't tell the truth. I tell what ought to be truth (Blanche/A streetcar named desire)
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Quote:
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What was Author Author like? I've never seen it!
Wasn't that about a husband whose wife left leaving him with two children to look after or stuff like this? If so I watched it AGES ago......Nahhhh, it's not MY Pacino....


I don't want realism. I want magic! Yes, yes, magic. I try to give that to people. I do misrepresent things. I don't tell the truth. I tell what ought to be truth (Blanche/A streetcar named desire)
Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90523
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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by JustMe:
[b] Imagine him as Edward Lewis!
ARGH!!!!!!!!!!! That would be like pineapple on pizza....DISASTER!!!!! [/b][/quote]Besides, I guess Julia Roberts is accurately twice as tall as he is...


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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90524
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I watched Ben Hur for the first time yesterday. What an astounding movie. Top 20 of all time after first viewing. The scenes where Judah Ben Hur meets his mother and sister again are heartbreaking I was about to cry

Did anyone else imagine Marlon Brando as Judah Ben Hur? Dont get me wrong, Charles Heston did a wonderful job but in many scenes I was seeing Marlon Brando doing that part...

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Yeh i thought Pacino was a bit like a sore thumb in Frankie and Johnny, his acting presence didn't suit it really, but he still did a really good job. I havent got round to Any Given Sunday yet but I just finished watchin Freaky Friday - Jamie Lee Curtis and Linsey Lohan. I was really surprised by this movie and thouroughly enjoyed watching it and I thought there was some really good acting in it from both Lohan and Curtis.


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Le Cercle Rouge - (Melville;1970;France) - ****
A man is released from prison the same day another escapes. Together with an ex-cop they plan a jewelry heist.
A perfect example of an intelligent crime film. Everything is great from the music, acting, direction, and the cinematography. The dialogue is also witty at many times. One of the best crime films ever, as well as one of the most influential. It's a shame there aren't more films like this.
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I just finished watching Finding Neverland. Wow, Depp was fantastic in this film, and Kate Winslet is, IMO, this generation's Meryl Streep. I didn't think I'd enjoy it as much as I did, but its one of those films that make you think back to your childhood, all those magical moments. I actually got teary eyed at the end, but not because of the ending. Rather, all the nostalgia that came forth as the credits rolled. It made me wanna be a kid again!


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There are two movies on different TV channels this evening: Desperado and Apocalypse Now. I'm curious about both, not decided yet what to watch, what to record...


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There are two movies on different TV channels this evening: Desperado and Apocalypse Now. I'm curious about both, not decided yet what to watch, what to record...
Watch Apocalypse Now, record Desperado...


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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90530
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I finally got License To Drive on DVD Thursday and I got to watch it last night. Sweet movie for those who haven't seen it about a young man with no license who takes the girl of dreams out on a date in his grandfather's car

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Has anybody seen this whats it like,i remember watching bits of it when a kid


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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90532
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Mick I think a few weeks back I gave you some advice about skipping Dune and watch "Wild at Heart" instead.
You did, yes, and I expected Dune to be bad. It's also Lynch, so I had to pick the DVD up when I saw it cheap. I plan on hunting down Wild at Heart next.

Thirteen ** (1st Time)
2004, Hardwicke, US
A teenager whose mother is seeing an ex-cocaine addict and whose father is never around for her turns to the school's most popular girl for comfort.
Surprisingly solid drama of the troubles of peer-pressure and where it all leads. If the narrative gets a tad repetitive and at times a little unbelievable, for the most part it delivers its message well.

Dead Man ** (1st Time)
1995, Jarmusch, US
A clerk from Cleveland finds himself pursued by the law, and is taken through the wilderness by a native Indian.
Odd take on the Western; a mystical approach with brilliant black and white photography and a haunting score.

Beauty and the Beast **** (1st Time)
1991, Trousdale/Wise, US
A prince cursed to living as a beast holds a village girl as his prisoner in the secret hope she can break his curse.
Glorious animated musical, a return to sure form from Disney after years in the wilderness. Animation and songs are both fantastic; the characters are sublime.

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The Ox-Bow Incident - (Wellman;1943;USA) - ****
After a farmer is reported dead and his cattle stolen, two drifters join a lynch mob that wants to hang now and ask questions later.
An excellent film that seems to give off a great anti-violent or anti-vigilante feeling. Henry Fonda is great as usual. Both he and Anthony Quinn are becoming favorites of mine. The latter of the two, plays one of the three men accused of the crime and his presence shines. One of the best westerns around.
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Just finished watching Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events. I liked it a lot. Its definitely a different film than I accustomed to watching, but I'm trying to broaden my tastes. I'm a film afficionado, but lets face it, watching classics all the time is boring. That shouldn't suggest that I'm gonna go out and by Gigli to find the hidden brilliance that everyone else has overlooked (because um, there isn't any). I just purchased the 11 book series of Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events. Anyone else find the film entertaining?


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National Treasure - (Turteltaub;2004;USA) - *
A man whose family is a line of treasure hunters searches for an Egyptian treasure hidden by America's founding fathers.
I love how clever Cage's character's name is. Sarcasm aside, this was a horrid film that was neither suspenseful nor fascinating. When I watch Le Cercle Rouge or Ocean's 11, I watch fascinating robberies. This robbery was boring and too quick. There is hardly anything good to find other then some good character actors. Diane Kruger's character's entire purpose was to be Cage's girl, and provide some attractive appeal.


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The Searchers - (Ford;1956;USA) - ****
A Confederate soldier returns from the war and his family is massacred by Indians. Together with his nephew he sets out to find his kidnapped nieces.
One of the best things about the film is the breathtaking cinematography of the Monument Valley that would soon inspire Sergio Leone and many others. John Wayne is at his best in this excellent film. The film had more depth then many of the westerns of it's time. A true classic that actually has a hero with flaws. The third greatest western ever.
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By the way SC, I'll be seeing To Have and To Have Not tonight on TCM. Seeing your a big Bogart fan, what do you think of it?


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The Tenant.

A very weird Roman Polanski film. Stayed up late watching it and I never did understand the ultra weird ending. My view...old isnt always best...
Anymore views on this or Roman Polanski in general??

FH

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Quote:
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By the way SC, I'll be seeing To Have and To Have Not tonight on TCM. Seeing your a big Bogart fan, what do you think of it?
I'm glad you enjoyed "The Searchers" ... its one of my favorites.

"To Have and Have Not" is a wonderful movie. It'll remind you a little of "Casablanca" (Bogart's outward appearance of staying neutral in a wartime setting) and the chemistry between Bogart and Bacall was as hot as ever been shown on the screen. Its a good story with great acting and throw Howard Hawks into the mix you end up with a wonderful film.


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This was a rewatch for The Searcher, which is one of my favorite films and the best western after The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly and Once Upon a Time in the West.

For Bogart, I really wanna see The Big Sleep and The Maltese Falcon. Bogard and Fonda are probably my favorite actors of the pre-Brando era. By the way SC, have you ever seen In a Lonely Place? It\'s a great Bogey film.

I'll be updating the western thread (if it wasn't deleted) i na few minutes. I'd love to see your best of list for westerns.


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The Tenant.

FH
FH, I can't wait to treat myself to early Polanski. I've seen his faithful adaptation of Macbeth, Rosemary's Baby, Chinatown and his recent The Pianist. He's brilliant at creating atmosphere.

Get Carter ** (1st Time)
1971, Hodges, GB
A London gangster returns to Newcastle to settle a score.
Atmospheric, Chandleresque thriller, where the ruthless gangster replaces the private eye; it exploits its location to brilliant effect.

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Anymore views on this or Roman Polanski in general??

FH
I've always felt sorry for the guy.
He survived the holocaust (which most of his family didn't), just to have his beautiful pregnant movie star wife brutally murdered.
As far as his films, I've seen four, and they are all excellent. "Knife in the Water" is his best, followed closely by "Chinatown", "The Pianist", and "Rosemary's Baby".
I still need to see "The Tenant".


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I think where most people get a little twisted on Polanski is the whole statuary rape situation. Chinatown is one of the ten greatest films ever IMO.

To Have and Have Not - (Hawks;1944;USA) - ***1/2
During WW2, a man and his friend who have a boat charter service begin to work for the resistance while one of them falls in love with a sassy club singer.
Almost feels like a diet Casablanca. The story is very compelling although it felt it lacked something. Hawks brings another great film that is very compelling. Bogart and Bacall's chemistry is excellent. Brennan is also great as usual.


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Just saw The Incredibles with the kids. It was very cute, and very funny. Not quite up to Monsters Inc., but pretty good. Btw, does anyone know if they do have plans for a sequel to Monsters Inc.?


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