Wrong- Scarfo's influence was long gone. The long John hit had nothing to do with Scarfo lease all Simone. And more so MONEY

Long John was trying to take over certain rackets and he found out what happens when u do

Takes one to know one, he was just surprised the people voted in a crook is what he's saying

actually he said people are dumb for voting for Trump. just like trump said that the republicans have to dumbest voters

Anyone else think Leonetti might be making this shit up to make Scarfo sound even worse than he is, and because it ties in to the self-serving narrative of his book and serves to justify his reasons for ratting and stealing Scarfo's money?

I get it. It might be true.

I'm just playing devil's advocate here.

I just wouldn't be so quick to automatically accept anything Crazy Phil says as gospel.

Took me a second to figure out who that was


I'm inclined to believe Philip Leonetti on that matter. Everyone says Scarfo was a total psychopath. It wouldn't surprise me if that was his reaction.

Was he on lockdown like Gotti? Almost thirty years locked up. I would like to hear some prison stories about him. After his kid got shot, he pretty much lost any power he had left? Did anyone try to shake him down, or did he have respect from the other prisoners. Gotti was a lot bigger than him and he got his ass handed to him.

I haven't seen this one yet. He always had his pants pressed,even in all the prison pics.

Scarfo was a pretty sick fuck so I actually think it is true. I'm not saying Leonetti was always 100% truthful but it seems like Scafo looked down on anybody who was legit or he viewed as weak. Its common knowledge he didn't get along with his son Chris because Chri would never be a criminal. Also his sister Nancy(Phil's mother) didn't have a good relationship with him a refered to him as "Hitler"

Could be.

Good write up in the New York Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/nyreg...at-87.html?_r=0

Serp

Are you attending the services?

I think it's possible he was a criminal though. At least for a short time. According to Serp, Chris was somewhat involved in his fathers activity along with Nicky Jr. for quite some time. He and his father had a falling out, and Chris got out early, early enough to never be hurt by his association with his father and brother. I think there could be some truth to that.

No service for Nick sr.

Let us know if you hear anything that you can share when you're paying your respects!!

Been hitting The Borgata almost every weekend, will be there again on Sunday- Serp. Hope all is well my friend!

Ive never heard of Chris being a criminal. Even Leonetti said he was a straight arrow. Its possible he could have some done some kiddie stuff like many of us do when we are teens but I don't think he was a criminal like his father or brother

Chris was not involved in rackets or murders but he was involved in the everyday stuff that goes along with it. He was doing this long before Jr. started in the life.

As far as Chris hating his father (far far from true)

As far as Chris denouncing and cutting his father off (not true) Chris knew he could never get into the business he wanted to with that name !!! (That's it !!!)

He was learning the business from a associate of his fathers and Phil became close with that associate .

To this day when Chris gets out and has a couple he gets loud and starts to bring up the old days and he does this in front of his new friends and he does not hold back.

So much of what you hear is just talk .... Chris loved his father but "he"was exactly like him so they banged heads constantly .

That's all !!!

Good riddance

Exactly Serp

No different to when Gotti was telling Vicky that the (grandkids) surname being Agnello wouldn't cause them problems if it were "Gotti"

As for others suggested Scarfo not caring about his son Mark (based on Leonetti's opinion) I think that's a load of bull. Just because he didn't show emotion doesn't mean he didn't care. How'd u know he didn't cry his eyes out in his cell

Gotti jr said his father never cried in front of them but he would hear him cry in his den. U have to understand these men are all "tough" on the front and don't like
to show weakness regardless if it's their kids or what, but deep down I'm sure they have emotions. Spillotro was a nut but he loved his kid dearly

Yea, I think that story is a scenario made up by Phil Leonetti to support his whole "they turned on me first so I turned on them by turning rat" thing he has going on in his mind.

Phil was handed everything he had by his uncle and his status came from his uncle .

Phil was not a fighter he was mafia tough ! But he learned how to work it at a very young age , he was not belligerent or nasty to others that were not in the life he was very smooth.

But he was with his uncle every dam day and night and because of his personality he just took it .

He could not do anything outside of the family without there being verbal diarrhea coming from his uncle .

He would be out and have to be by a pay phone to call and check in with whom ever but it was ultimately checking in what is uncle every day every night his whole life unless his uncle was in jail .

I seen when it turned just before salvi but after Salvi it was all over his face .

Pretty sure he was really done with his uncle by then , but no enough to do anything.
You can bet your ass if they did not go down he would be running that family right now .

It's the nature of the beast that life .

Was his obit published in any paper? I would take a guess his wake n funeral would probaly be Friday sat.

No one will know .

Because It was his wishes that they did not have a service .

I am sure there is a gathering but no official service .

Wonder if he gets any flower cars things. Think amuso sends his people out of there friendship. Shit on the scarfo jr wires his father always saying take care of uncle vic. Kid brought bags of money to amuso wife n queens. She died a few yers ago according to capeci the whole family showed up. Thats when he took back amuso steped down and wasnt the official boss anymore. Scarfo jr should have stuck to blue collar crime. The min he started screwing with a finicial group he was toast. Whats the point of being a capo of a huge crew in jersey if all you need was a pencil tuff guy like his code.

Pmac: Things that a paper trail follows and people that are not involved in the life never go well.

That Sal was no good but still Jr. should have never been tied to that but he was not smart enough and now he is paying the ulitmate price his life .

The dollar figure was staggering and he was sucked right in and believe me he was told and he knew and still the dollar took over.

According to George Fresolone, Jr was always a thinker when it came to White-Collar crimes. He says when computers first became popular and of use during the late 80s & early-mid 90's, that Jr was the first one to be on that wave and the only one around, at least around Fresolones crew in North Jersey, who had the brains to think things through and see the future and how critical computers would be and how they could be money makers.

All true Junior was never a street guy though , and far as that goes neither was Phil, but he was very willing to do work and be involved with street guys and he did hang out with street guys .

You gonna be packing?

I remember a few months ago, u pretty much made the same statement,,I always wondered what would of happened if he actually whacked his uncle like he sometimes thought about.

His (Chris) website is pretty impressive..it's not just houses & the like,, it's more industrious shit & mansions,etc..

Yeh Serp I always thought Phil wasn't a street guy- yes he learned to kill (being around his uncle) & enjoyed the money/ power. But he wasn't a street tough to begin with...and when the going got tough he wanted out