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Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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I read on gangsterreport.com that Jeff Riddle a black thug and Lenny Strollo associate wanted to be made in the mafia http://gangsterreport.com/one-time-youngstown-mafia-henchman-returned-behind-bars/ At some point in the early 1990s following his taking the reins of the Youngstown crew, Strollo began partnering in gambling, loan sharking and drug operations with members of the city’s black underworld, expanding the area Italian mob’s reach past cultural borders it had never traveled. This decision to venture into the African-American rackets brought him in contact with Riddle and subsequently Wilkins, Riddle’s main muscle on the street. Strollo used confidant and veteran racketeer Bernard (Bernie the Jew) Altschuler as his liaison with the black gangland scene and became close with Riddle, who boasted that he was going to become the first black man ever inducted into the American mafia (LCN). When Strollo decided that Biondillo had to be executed, he tapped Altschuler and Riddle for the job. Riddle in turn contracted the work out to Wilkins, Blair and Turnage, his nephew. http://gangsterreport.com/the-hit-list-pittsburgh/ The hit was carried out by black gangster Jeff Riddle, a Strollo strong arm that wished to become the first African-American LCN inductee.
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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Furio's knowledge of Youngstown/Pittsburgh never ceases to amaze me.
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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Furio's knowledge of Youngstown/Pittsburgh never ceases to amaze me. FOH, you can't amaze of a thing that is equal to zero. Youngstown/Pittsburgh is your competence,I simply read these two articles and I found funny that a black boasted or wanted to be made in Cosa Nostra (the joe bravo case in montreal is an example). I don't know why you're hitting me, of course I wrote some shit, but was long time ago. 1. That's a Racketeer not a thug. 2. Where's Riddle pictures? 3. Cool Article Sorry I can't find the photo,anyway: http://gangsterreport.com/top-5-black-associates-italian-mafia/Jeff Riddle – The self-declared “Black John Gotti of the Ohio underworld”, Riddle became a trusted lieutenant of Youngstown mafia leader Lenny Strollo in the late 1980s and 1990s. Strollo was the Pittsburgh mob’s crew chief in Ohio and Riddle openly told people that despite his African-American heritage, he was on his way to being “made” into La Cosa Nostra (the American mafia). Riddle ran gambling and shakedown rackets on behalf of Strollo and helped him carry out murder contracts. In 1996, Riddle helped plan the assassination of Strollo’s mob rival, Ernest (Big Ernie) Biondillo and the botched assassination of Youngstown prosecutor Paul Gains. He was convicted of racketeering and murder at trial in 1999 and died of cancer in prison in 2012.
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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Sinatra - FWIW: For all the years I knew Bernie he wanted to be made more than anything else in the world. His life-long friend, Lenny, told him that if he made his "bones" wackin' Ernie that he would make him. If anyone told Jeff he would be made, it would have been Bernie who was paid $35k for the hit.
Ernie was told by the FBI that he was in danger. Ernie was also told by a high ranking Pittsburgh associate that if he didn't pull his poker machines out of the joints in Hillsville that bad things would happen. Ernie actually worked with Bernie at The All American Club for years and was really a "stand-up guy".
Keep in mind that Bernie recruited the Black drug dealers when he realized there wasn't enough Greek bridge painters to keep feeding The All American Club.
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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Riddles hope of being made wasn't exactly unfounded. Strollo supposedly promised him he'd make him himself if the murder was carried out to expertise. He was probably just selling him hot-air, just saying though. And you laugh and call them "thugs" and a joke and all these other things, but the fact is, the black guys and the jew were the only ones involved in the case whom didn't flip and are still serving their time, if they aren't dead. The big, bad mafioso, flipped the first chance he got. This don't mean nothing. There was and there are mobster that get 20 to life and dont flip and black guys that flips other wise there are more blacks in the jail that mobsters so a black thug could find more protection by his fellow that a mobster and the mobsters must pay the protection by the other white prison gangs.
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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Riddles hope of being made wasn't exactly unfounded. Strollo supposedly promised him he'd make him himself if the murder was carried out to expertise. He was probably just selling him hot-air, just saying though. And you laugh and call them "thugs" and a joke and all these other things, but the fact is, the black guys and the jew were the only ones involved in the case whom didn't flip and are still serving their time, if they aren't dead. The big, bad mafioso, flipped the first chance he got. This don't mean nothing. There was and there are mobster that get 20 to life and dont flip and black guys that flips other wise there are more blacks in the jail that mobsters so a black thug could find more protection by his fellow that a mobster and the mobsters must pay the protection by the other white prison gangs. actually it does mean something the blacks and Jews held it down, the Italians snitched on each other no variables in this equation
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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Riddles hope of being made wasn't exactly unfounded. Strollo supposedly promised him he'd make him himself if the murder was carried out to expertise. He was probably just selling him hot-air, just saying though. And you laugh and call them "thugs" and a joke and all these other things, but the fact is, the black guys and the jew were the only ones involved in the case whom didn't flip and are still serving their time, if they aren't dead. The big, bad mafioso, flipped the first chance he got. This don't mean nothing. There was and there are mobster that get 20 to life and dont flip and black guys that flips other wise there are more blacks in the jail that mobsters so a black thug could find more protection by his fellow that a mobster and the mobsters must pay the protection by the other white prison gangs. actually it does mean something the blacks and Jews held it down, the Italians snitched on each other no variables in this equation Sad, but true!
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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Riddles hope of being made wasn't exactly unfounded. Strollo supposedly promised him he'd make him himself if the murder was carried out to expertise. He was probably just selling him hot-air, just saying though. And you laugh and call them "thugs" and a joke and all these other things, but the fact is, the black guys and the jew were the only ones involved in the case whom didn't flip and are still serving their time, if they aren't dead. The big, bad mafioso, flipped the first chance he got. This don't mean nothing. There was and there are mobster that get 20 to life and dont flip and black guys that flips other wise there are more blacks in the jail that mobsters so a black thug could find more protection by his fellow that a mobster and the mobsters must pay the protection by the other white prison gangs. As mentioned by cookcounty & FOH, it means something whether you'd like to acknowledge it or not.
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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Riddles hope of being made wasn't exactly unfounded. Strollo supposedly promised him he'd make him himself if the murder was carried out to expertise. He was probably just selling him hot-air, just saying though. And you laugh and call them "thugs" and a joke and all these other things, but the fact is, the black guys and the jew were the only ones involved in the case whom didn't flip and are still serving their time, if they aren't dead. The big, bad mafioso, flipped the first chance he got. This don't mean nothing. There was and there are mobster that get 20 to life and dont flip and black guys that flips other wise there are more blacks in the jail that mobsters so a black thug could find more protection by his fellow that a mobster and the mobsters must pay the protection by the other white prison gangs. actually it does mean something the blacks and Jews held it down, the Italians snitched on each other no variables in this equation Well the blacks couldnt keep there mouths shut about it and some broad called them in out of spite so if u think about they only have them selfs to blame. As soon as the hit was botched Lenny should of had Riddle and company whacked
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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Maybe it's best that I don't comment any further. I personally knew all those involved and it would be most difficult for me not to be bias. Just imagine someone that you grew up with giving you up. You go to jail for life and he gets to keep his millions and live like a king? You tell me!
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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Riddles hope of being made wasn't exactly unfounded. Strollo supposedly promised him he'd make him himself if the murder was carried out to expertise. He was probably just selling him hot-air, just saying though. And you laugh and call them "thugs" and a joke and all these other things, but the fact is, the black guys and the jew were the only ones involved in the case whom didn't flip and are still serving their time, if they aren't dead. The big, bad mafioso, flipped the first chance he got. This don't mean nothing. There was and there are mobster that get 20 to life and dont flip and black guys that flips other wise there are more blacks in the jail that mobsters so a black thug could find more protection by his fellow that a mobster and the mobsters must pay the protection by the other white prison gangs. actually it does mean something the blacks and Jews held it down, the Italians snitched on each other no variables in this equation Well the blacks couldnt keep there mouths shut about it and some broad called them in out of spite so if u think about they only have them selfs to blame. As soon as the hit was botched Lenny should of had Riddle and company whacked I don't know about you, but where I'm from, the underworld criminals look down more on snitching or testifying, and giving up your accomplices, just because you can't handle the prison time more than they do for guys talking amongst each other about crime they committed and getting arrested for it when someone overhears and reports you. They consider those types just dumb criminals, stupid idiots who should've never said anything in the street. But in the end, when those individuals keep their mouths shut within the legal system, and take their time, and doesn't rat out their friends, that overwrites what they did to be caught in the first place. When you testify, to save your ass, you're simply a no-good rat bastard, and there's no coming back from that.
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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I don't know about you, but where I'm from, the underworld criminals look down more on snitching or testifying, and giving up your accomplices, just because you can't handle the prison time more than they do for guys talking amongst each other about crime they committed and getting arrested for it when someone overhears and reports you. They consider those types just dumb criminals, stupid idiots who should've never said anything in the street. But in the end, when those individuals keep their mouths shut within the legal system, and take their time, and doesn't rat out their friends, that overwrites what they did to be caught in the first place. When you testify, to save your ass, you're simply a no-good rat bastard, and there's no coming back from that.
Amen!
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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Even though non-Italians won't get 'made' due to traditions, they can still be associates. Roy DeMeo had non-Italians in his crew and they were called on to do a lot of work because they weren't afraid of getting blood on their hands. Richard Kuklinsi also said he performed hits for the mob. He even claimed he participated in the Paul Castellano hit at Sparks Steak House, but he was probably bullshitting.
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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I don't know about you, but where I'm from, the underworld criminals look down more on snitching or testifying, and giving up your accomplices, just because you can't handle the prison time more than they do for guys talking amongst each other about crime they committed and getting arrested for it when someone overhears and reports you. They consider those types just dumb criminals, stupid idiots who should've never said anything in the street. But in the end, when those individuals keep their mouths shut within the legal system, and take their time, and doesn't rat out their friends, that overwrites what they did to be caught in the first place. When you testify, to save your ass, you're simply a no-good rat bastard, and there's no coming back from that.
Amen!
I agree with you FOH. I simplying stating if the two blacks guys kept there mouths shut , likely they never get indicted for it . They took a murder contract and botched it and bragged about it , They only have them selfs to blame. they should of been whacked. but at the end of the day they did stand stall and are men. The strollos are scum I think its actually pretty disturbing the goverment let Lenny keep his cash. Does anyone know IF the feds even offered bernie A deal?
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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I can't imagine the Feds offering Bernie a deal. I'm sure they wanted him out of their hair once and for all. Henry always said that Bernie was doing life on the installment plan. He finally made his last payment.
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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I can't imagine the Feds offering Bernie a deal. I'm sure they wanted him out of their hair once and for all. Henry always said that Bernie was doing life on the installment plan. He finally made his last payment. I guess once they had Lenny , Bernie was of no value anyway. Well I guess tehre is some credio to Bernie going to the box knowing he had no chance as a one last fuck you to the feds
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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Two things that came into play: Bernie was a 3 time looser and no deals could be made. Besides, Bernie would never rat - period!
Lenny "ratted" in 1999 after the only person that would have dealt with him the "old fashion way" died in 1998.
The only question that I really don't have the answer for is did Lenny get or even need permission from Michael to put out a contract on Ernie, who was not a made man?
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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Two things that came into play: Bernie was a 3 time looser and no deals could be made. Besides, Bernie would never rat - period!
Lenny "ratted" in 1999 after the only person that would have dealt with him the "old fashion way" died in 1998.
The only question that I really don't have the answer for is did Lenny get or even need permission from Michael to put out a contract on Ernie, who was not a made man? FOh , That is a good question, didnt you post about Zebo warnin Ernie many times. So you have to assume at least Zebo knew about it. Well do you think Michael would of signed off on the gaines shooting? We can only speculate , The one guy left alive who knows that answer and its Lenny,
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