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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
[Re: mulberry]
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01/21/17 06:59 PM
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It's not about skin color but culture and familiarity. Many of these guys grew up together, knew each others families, and could vouch for each other. It made LCN strongvand kept rats out for decades. Many still refuse to rat because of friendships and family. For every rat there are 25 that don't rat. I understand what you're saying, however Jeff did not fit that mold. He was a local drug dealer and thug that Bernie originally recruited to bring his fellow drug dealers to the All American Club so he could take them off at the Barbut table. They later became part of Bernie's crew that wacked Ernie.
"Never walk in a room that you don't know how to get out of"- Henry Zottola
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
[Re: mulberry]
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01/21/17 07:00 PM
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Moe_Tilden
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It's not about skin color but culture and familiarity. Many of these guys grew up together, knew each others families, and could vouch for each other. It made LCN strongvand kept rats out for decades. Many still refuse to rat because of friendships and family. For every rat there are 25 that don't rat. And out of the 25 that don't rat, 10 haven't being tested. It's easy not to rat when you haven't served any more than 2 or 3 consecutive years in prison at a time, or when you don't have anything to offer the government.
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
[Re: mulberry]
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01/22/17 02:47 AM
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strococs
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It's not about skin color but culture and familiarity. Many of these guys grew up together, knew each others families, and could vouch for each other. It made LCN strongvand kept rats out for decades. Many still refuse to rat because of friendships and family. For every rat there are 25 that don't rat. it is about skin color no black guy was ever going to get made , there has always been rats since time and memorial. They just get better deals tody
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
[Re: strococs]
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01/22/17 09:49 AM
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Friend_of_Henry
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It's not about skin color but culture and familiarity. Many of these guys grew up together, knew each others families, and could vouch for each other. It made LCN strongvand kept rats out for decades. Many still refuse to rat because of friendships and family. For every rat there are 25 that don't rat. it is about skin color no black guy was ever going to get made , there has always been rats since time and memorial. They just get better deals tody Can't really argue with any of that.
"Never walk in a room that you don't know how to get out of"- Henry Zottola
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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01/23/17 11:37 PM
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I guess African Americans will be become made members of LCN the same time white guys are trusted and accepted to become members of the Bloods or Crips.
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
[Re: SinatraClub]
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01/24/17 11:31 AM
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BobbyPazzo
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I guess African Americans will be become made members of LCN the same time white guys are trusted and accepted to become members of the Bloods or Crips. You must not be very in tune with underworld politics or the "street", white guys have been trusted and accepted members of both groups pretty much for about 40+ years. It's a common thing now to see white bloods/crips, hispanic bloods/crips, etc. I know white crips , bloods, kings , trinis. It's common. Matter of fact I know some straight shooters, guys who have put in work for al of these gangs and hold leadership positions. Sinatra is on point.
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
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01/28/17 02:41 PM
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"It's possible," Rosenberg said, that Hammer "just hangs out with the fellas."
Acquaintances of Hammer voiced similar thoughts. Rogelio Alberto Tovar, 22, who is friends with many Southside Crips, said Hammer could never have been a true member of the traditionally black gang because he is white. Compton resident Ramon Sanders, who met Hammer two years ago, agreed. http://articles.latimes.com/2003/sep/26/local/me-hammer26
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Re: Jeff Riddle, the black that wanted to be made
[Re: furio_from_naples]
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01/29/17 01:00 PM
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BobbyPazzo
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I also know a bunch of white bloods, crips, and kings. I was in prison with them, and grew up with a few. Watch lock up New Jersey the Bergen county jail one. David goodell aka Super Dave as he's known around my way... who is from Passaic and is now in Trenton doing 45 years for killing his ex after meeting her while he fled from the haft say house he was in... he's blood, a killer before he killed his ex... and has both respect and fear on the streets and behind the wall. That's one example. Some sets won't allow it. Most do. Blood started from the panthers. It's their history. But if you think for one second that there aren't white members of traditional minority run gangs then your misinformed and just flat out wrong. I'm not being argumentive I'm Just saying how it is because I've seen it with my own eyes and I been asked to become blood in particular on multiple occasions.
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