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Future of Philly LCN
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10/17/16 01:50 PM
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New poster here, longtime South Philly LCN follower though, from the days we saw a lot of the current guys mentioned here in the clubs. Curious as to what the experts here think about what happens if Joey Merlino goes away for 5 or 10 years on his current charge. Here's some scenarios:
1. Joey keeps his crown and gets some money either through Uncle Joe (a little long in the tooth these days) or through Stevie Mazzone, who would probably be happy no one in LE targets him as boss; nothing else changes.
2. One of the others among the Merlino era guys, like Mickey Lance or George Borgesi, tries to take the top spot by combination of muscle and money--buying off guys like the Changs and the Mazzones. Maybe kicks up to Merlino, maybe not. And a guy like Borgesi probably doesn't give a shit if the feds think he's in charge. Lancelotti probably is too smart to screw up what seems to be the best career in all of LCN...
3. An old-school guy like Narducci or Joey Pung makes a move for the crown, either by whacking one or more of Merlino's allies or by refusing to kick up and seeing if there's any response--if not, then its effectively a free-for-all on the street in terms of who collects from whom; and plus maybe one of these guys makes an alliance with the Dominicans or the Russians or the South Asians, all of whom are making probably more money than they are, drugs-wise...
4. Merlino promotes some of the young guys--Baby Dom Grande, the younger brothers Mazzone and Borgesi, the younger Lancellotti to form a new buffer around him as guys like Uncle Joe and Mikey Lance and the Changs retire or go completely legit?
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Re: Future of Philly LCN
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10/18/16 12:33 AM
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Try telling that to Montreal. It is crazy to think that a lot of the murders could be happening due too payback from the Rizzuto's grabbing power 40-50 years ago.....Montreal doesn't seem to let anything slide. In NY, witness protection doesn't even seem necessary anymore...Way too many guys have joined team America and have very little to worry about in 2016. (Ex: Montiglio)
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Re: Future of Philly LCN
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10/18/16 04:24 PM
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I would love to hear the tapes Rubeo recorded with Joey and trying to bring up the question of hits. You know damn well Rubeo's handlers were pushing him to catch Joey talking about something more serious than fraud and gambling debts. Also interested to know how much Sirkin was kicking up to Joey to hang around him
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Re: Future of Philly LCN
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10/26/16 08:48 AM
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I agree that the days of a Scarfo-style bloodletting are past, but it's hard to dismiss the money factor in all of this. Say you're a South Philly guy running a sports book. It's halfway through the football season and you're making bank--but you're taking a chunk of your weekly profit and sending it to a guy who might be in Lewisburg by next fall. Don't you start talking to your peers about a change in management? Or, if nothing else, aren't you tempted to stop kicking up? What if someone like Phil Narducci says "kick half as much up to me, its new management"? There is A reason your kicking up in the first place. YOUR SCARED or they put you in action. nobody worth there salt is going to just kick up of course they dont want to pay. Lets say you were paying Merlino and you know he is going away, someone is going to get that action for Merlino. why would Nardducci take half ? when you were paying full freight to MErlino wouldnt that be disrespect towards Narducci?
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Re: Future of Philly LCN
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10/27/16 02:39 AM
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I would love to hear the tapes Rubeo recorded with Joey and trying to bring up the question of hits. You know damn well Rubeo's handlers were pushing him to catch Joey talking about something more serious than fraud and gambling debts. Also interested to know how much Sirkin was kicking up to Joey to hang around him Given Joey's past I would think there is little to nothing of meat on those tapes besides chicken shit charges. Joey is shrewd and has been for a long time, even when Ron Previte was on tape Joey told him to stay away from drugs and barely talked about a hijacked trailer load of baby formula or ceiling fans. Even after he got out Gambino New Jersey made guy Nicky Skins tried to trap Joey on tape, but Joey said he wasn't in that life anymore and didn't get Joey saying shit, so it is hard for me to believe that a Genovese associate would get Joey on anything but a minor beef. Joey won't talk serious crime to a Gambino soldier. Joey doesn't care which 5 families you belong to much less his own Family. Only possible way you can catch Joey talking serious charges is if you get a long time Capo from Philly or the 5 Families that is wired up. Only way he will get caught. Joey knows the life, he is too smart in his 50 some odd years to get caught up any other way. That or 1 of his longtime inner circle flips. Only way to catch Skinny Joey.
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Re: Future of Philly LCN
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10/27/16 05:32 AM
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I would love to hear the tapes Rubeo recorded with Joey and trying to bring up the question of hits. You know damn well Rubeo's handlers were pushing him to catch Joey talking about something more serious than fraud and gambling debts. Also interested to know how much Sirkin was kicking up to Joey to hang around him Given Joey's past I would think there is little to nothing of meat on those tapes besides chicken shit charges. Joey is shrewd and has been for a long time, even when Ron Previte was on tape Joey told him to stay away from drugs and barely talked about a hijacked trailer load of baby formula or ceiling fans. Even after he got out Gambino New Jersey made guy Nicky Skins tried to trap Joey on tape, but Joey said he wasn't in that life anymore and didn't get Joey saying shit, so it is hard for me to believe that a Genovese associate would get Joey on anything but a minor beef. Joey won't talk serious crime to a Gambino soldier. Joey doesn't care which 5 families you belong to much less his own Family. Only possible way you can catch Joey talking serious charges is if you get a long time Capo from Philly or the 5 Families that is wired up. Only way he will get caught. Joey knows the life, he is too smart in his 50 some odd years to get caught up any other way. That or 1 of his longtime inner circle flips. Only way to catch Skinny Joey. Agreed he maybe able to do good in court according to the charges . That or cop a plea that isn't so bad.
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Re: Future of Philly LCN
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Re: Future of Philly LCN
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Merlino is going away, no doubt. I'd imagine he'll cop a plea.
Can't see anything changing. Merlino wants the crown and the boys should be happy that he's the lightning rod. Why change that and become the focus for the Feds. Merlin has a long history of going to trial. He won't take a plea. Not his style.
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Re: Future of Philly LCN
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If anyone was going to move aside Skinny Joey, they had plenty of chances while he was away for 14 years and none had the balls.
Someone might want to be acting boss. Probably George.
One thing you can give Skinny Joey and his inner circle, they are loyal to each other. They don't rat. And none have tried to dethrone Joey.
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Re: Future of Philly LCN
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If anyone was going to move aside Skinny Joey, they had plenty of chances while he was away for 14 years and none had the balls.
Someone might want to be acting boss. Probably George.
One thing you can give Skinny Joey and his inner circle, they are loyal to each other. They don't rat. And none have tried to dethrone Joey. I totally agree , but if say Skinny get 15 that puts him at 70 back on the streets that he will not walk now . Things are different and it will not be the same.
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