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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90124
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Quote:
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I just watched "13 Days" with Kevin Costner. It's about the Cuban Missile Crisis. Very good but underrated film. The actor who portrayed JFK was excellent, as was Bobby Kennedy. The actor playing RFK is actually on "West Wing" now as the Republican Speaker of the House.
Goombah, I wanted to see that movie. I was young, but old enough to remember the tension of that time. Who played JFK, do you know?

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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90125
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Bruce Greenwood plays JFK, TIS. By the way TIS, have you ever seen this?
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The Poseidon Adventure - (Neame;1972;USA) - **1/2
A tidal wave turns a ship upside down, and several people attempt to get to the top (bottom of ship) to reach safety.
What an adventure it is, with a very good score by John Williams by the way. Gene Hackman does a great job as the preacher with unorthodox ways. The special effects are pretty good for it's time, and it stays away from the average addition of a heavy romance theme that is common in disaster movies. There is a romance between two characters that forms, but it doesn't go off the tracks to explore the irrelevant area such as movies like "Titanic" have. It's a good movie, not great. Good, just a little above average with a great supporting cast that includes Ernest Borgnine, Red Buttons, Shelley Winters, Stella Stevens, Carol Lynley, and Jack Albertson. One major problem with the movie is the fact that a tidal wave caused by an earthquake would be a few inches high in the middle of the ocean, which pretty much makes a large plot hole.


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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90126
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Thanks DV. I knew it was someone I knew of, but couldn't remember who. I've seen Bruce Greenwood in several movies and in a tv show a few years back.

I did see The Poseidon Adventure and it was very good for it's time.

Back in the 70's there were a string of disaster movies including: Earthquake, Jaws, Airport and more I'm not thinking of. Earthquake also had good special effects for it's time;

Jaws made everyone think twice about swimming in the ocean and Airport, as you can imagine put the fear of flying in us. And Earthquake, especially now, with living in CA, makes me realize just how devasting the "big" one could be.

Don't know why or how these "Trends" in movies begin, but at the time they were very popular.

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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90127
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I got Troy and Saw this weekend, BOTH excellent movies IMO


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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by Irishman12:
[b] Well I got to watch everything on the JFK DVD that I wanted to. Tonight I watched the trailer, the deleted/extended scenes (which were pretty good), and the document BEYOND JFK: The Question of Conspiracy. It was good, with some good footage of the real characters in the movie (such as Jim Garrison, Dean Andrews, Clay Shaw, Lee Harvey Oswald, etc). Overall, not too bad and I'm glad I watched the movie, then again with the commentary, and finally the special features.
I have to do this also, esp. after reading your post. I found it amazing the extent Stone went to making John Candy look like Dean Andrews and how Pesci resembled David Ferrie. [/b][/quote]Yeah, I really loved Joe Pesci as David Ferrie, especially the first time he meets Jim Garrison.

As for me, I watched Bambi last night before I went to bed because I hadn't seen it since I was a kid and I wanted to see how the quality was on DVD. Not a great movie (in fact I thought it was patchy in the story. Tonight I'm probably gonna watch Peter Pan before I go to bed. But I have been watching The Shield Season 3 (which has been f'n GREAT!

DMC, Saw is a very good movie, but Troy being excellent!?

Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90129
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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by goombah:
[b] I just watched "13 Days" with Kevin Costner. It's about the Cuban Missile Crisis. Very good but underrated film. The actor who portrayed JFK was excellent, as was Bobby Kennedy. The actor playing RFK is actually on "West Wing" now as the Republican Speaker of the House.
Goombah, I wanted to see that movie. I was young, but old enough to remember the tension of that time. Who played JFK, do you know?

TIS [/b][/quote]TIS
I'm glad someone else knew the answer about the JFK actor. Nevertheless he was very good. I recommend that you rent it. I think that this movie was a victim of Costner being stuck in the middle of a bunch of poor roles prior to this movie, so I don't think it faired well at the box office. But it gives the viewer of a very real perspective of the obstacles the Kennedy's faced by the military. And if you're a conspiracy buff, it certainly leaves open the reasons why the CIA/military could have had Kennedy killed.

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Just watched Ocean's 11, Andy Garcia is much better that I expected. But of course his role is a cliche by intention...


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Charade - (Donen;1963;USA) - ****
Several men go after a widow to get the money her murdered husband stole while she has problems of knowing who to trust.
I agree with the quote that this is one of the best films that Hitchcock didn't make. Everything seems like Hitchcock minus the fact Hepburn is not a blonde. The plot is top notch with great twists and a great cast that includes Audrey Hepburn, Cary Grant, James Coburn, and Walter Matthau. The music is great, especially in the chase scene. A classic thriller and IMO, Hepburn's best film. All the actors are charming to watch, mainly Hepburn.
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Watched Peter Pan before I went to bed this morning. I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would. I also watched Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs this morning. Not a bad flick but I think there was too much singing going on between Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. I've also continued to watch The Shield Season 3 (watched episodes 5 & 6 today).

Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90133
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The Enforcer/Murder, Inc *** (1st Time)
1950, Windust, US
When his key witness falls to his death on the eve of a courtcase, a DA remembers how he came this close to bringing down the Mafia.
Atmospheric and key film in the crime film trend of the subsequent '50s.

Hotel Rwanda ** (1st Time)
2004, George, US
During the 1994 Rwandan genocide, a Hutu hotel manager shelters thousands of Tutsis against Hutu rebels while the UN fail to intervene.
A brave attempt at showing an atrocious event in history, but one that fails to have any wider impact regarding the genocide still happening in Africa. It would have been perhaps more powerful had it been more blunt in showing the full atrocities, but has seemingly been dampened down for a younger generation.

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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90134
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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90135
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Watched "Austin Powers in Goldmember" last night on TNT or TBS. Saw it originally at the theatre and was very disappointed. It's funnier the 2nd time around. I would equate it with Godfather 3 in the sense that it's good in its own right but not able to meet the level of its predecessors. However, Beyonce is a horrible actress. They should have used someone else or just kept Heather Graham.

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Re-watched "The Devil's Advocate" on tv last night. I had forgotten how good Pacino was in that.

Also, I watched the prequel to "The Exorcist" (for the first time) yesterday. It wasn't all that great, but it was certainly better than Parts 2 and 3.


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Re-watched "The Devil's Advocate" on tv last night. I had forgotten how good Pacino was in that.

Also, I watched the prequel to "The Exorcist" (for the first time) yesterday. It wasn't all that great, but it was certainly better than Parts 2 and 3.
SC, there's one thing I LOATHE about the new Exorcist.

Morgan Creek Productions fired Paul Schrader after he had submitted a completed movie, saying that he had given them "footage without any of the bloody violence the backers had wanted". He had already made it clear in interviews that he was making more of a psychological drama than an all-out gore-fest. He was fired and Renny Harlin was hired to re-shoot the movie. Almost 90% of the movie was re-shot and at least two characters have been dropped from Paul Schrader's version of the movie. However, Morgan Creek Productions stated in an interview on E: True Hollywood Story, that they will release Paul Schrader's version of the film on DVD in the near future.

For anyone who doesn't know, Schrader is responsible for writing screenplays for Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, City Hall, and Bringing Out the Dead.


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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90138
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Evil Dead was on UK television last night,Man that is one freaky film,but awesome affects for the 70/80;s


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Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90139
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I saw Be Cool yesterday, and was very VERY VERY disappointed. The scenes felt like they had nothing to do with each other, and the characters were so underdeveloped I was almost convinced they were an army of clones. Save yourself 8 bucks, stay the hell away from it.


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Really!? Wow, I was gonna see it just for Vince Vaughn (I can't get enough of those commericals, *twinkle twinkle baby, twinkle twinkle. And "I'm just clownin' baby!)

Re: Movies You Just Watched Discussion #90141
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Ebert gave Be Cool one and a half stars. I'm not surprised, is there a good movie that features The Rock in it?
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Annie Hall - (Allen;1977;USA) - ****
A neurotic comedian falls in love with a woman named Annie Hall who's the complete opposite.
Woody Allen is a great director, especially when it comes to dialogue and funny situations. While this film shows a completely real relationship it manages to blend it with hilarious moments binded with excellent dialogue. I hate romantic comedies for what they have become today but this is a gem of the sub-genre and is probably the best to come from it. This film never gets old when it comes to seeing it again. It's so great that most people don't realize that virtually all of it is scenes with few cuts with all talk with no major action. That makes a film great.
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Nosferatu: A Symphony of Horror - (Murnau;1922;Germany) - ****
Count Orlok, who is secretly the vampire Nosferatu, purchases a house in Germany to continue his bloodsucking carnage.
Nosferatu is the greatest vampire. No one can forget the chilling shadow creeping up the stairs, or that sinister creature walking through the door. Although corny acting is in this film, Max Schreck's performance more then makes up for it. Many overlook the beautiful cinematography of the castles, landscape, etc. This is no sex symbol either, this is truly a rat-faced, bat-eared creation from nightmares. A horror classic that is a must-see.
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The Sign of the Cross - (DeMille;1932;USA) - ***1/2
Nero burns Rome and uses the Christian community as a scapegoat so he can eradicate them, meanwhile a Roman soldier falls in love with a Christian woman.
Truly a great film about the sadistic Nero and his persecutions. Although dated with effects, the arena scene remains disturbing. This film's depiction of the power of faith is one of my favorite things about it. There are several good performances, most notably Charles Laughton as the sadistic emperor. A great epic.


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The Shootist - (Siegel;1976;USA) - ***1/2
A dying shootist finds out he has cancer and looks for a peaceful way to die. Unfortunately his reputation calls the attention of gunfighters who would like to kill him and those who don't seem to want to profit off of his death.
You never expect to see a western and find out that it's a great character study. It's very different from the average western formula, especially the end. John Wayne was battling cancer while doing it and seems to be mixing himself with the acting. This is arguably his best performance and definitely one of his best. It's grand that he ended his career with this and not some B-Movie. The cast is also great featuring Lauren Bacall, Ron Howard, Jimmy Stewart, and Richard Boone. The film contains less violence then most would have and focuses more on the man himself, which I love. Great acting, another great Siegel film to go with Dirty Harry, and another John Wayne classic.
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Deux Hommes dans Manhattan/Two Men in Manhattan (1st Time)
1958, Melville, Fr
When a French UN delegate seemingly disappears, two journalists search New York to find him.
Not by any means essential viewing, but a light-hearted film enjoyable for its running time.

A bout de souffle/Breathless **** (8th viewing or so)
1960, Godard, Fr
In Paris, an ultra-cool car thief kills a cop and seduces the girl he loves while running from the police.
Innovatively casual piece which helped spark the French New Wave of the 60s; Godard's first film, noted for its frenetic use of random jump cuts, is cinema at its most important and enjoyable.
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Just finished watching The Shield Season 3 and man, I LOVE watching it on DVD because you don't have to wait week after week to see another episode. I finished the 15 episode season in 5 days (1 on Friday, 3 on Saturday, 4 on Sunday, 4 on Monday, and 3 today plus the 1+ hour special feature). The special feature was a little disappointing but the show was EXCELLENT! I can't wait until next tuesday when Season 4 starts!

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That's one show I've wanted to see from the very beginning, but never have watched it. I'm guessing it's on the other station of Law & Order which I am a big fan of.

Btw, wasn't Glenn Close in a recent episode? I thought I saw previews of it?


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Just finished watching Rocky III, they are showing all the Rocky movies on AMC this week. I love part III. Mr. T, definitely the most under rated actor of his generation
Great quote:
Apollo Creed: "Eye of the tiger man, eye of the tiger!"


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What is The Shield about? I Googled it, but the site wasn't working for me. I saw a poster for it on the side of a bus the other day that said "Her house. His rules."

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Quote:
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That's one show I've wanted to see from the very beginning, but never have watched it. I'm guessing it's on the other station of Law & Order which I am a big fan of.

Btw, wasn't Glenn Close in a recent episode? I thought I saw previews of it?


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I LOVE The Shielf. It's probably my favorite show on TV (yes even ahead of The Sopranos). Season 4 starts a week from today and I think Glenn Close might be the new Captain because the old one moved on. That's my guess, I'm not sure what it is officially. If you have the chance TIS, check it out next Tuesday on FX (it's usually on at 9 PM CST, so probably 7 your time).

Letizia, I believe this is their offical site The Shield

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Vic Mackey for President!

Anyway, what's THE SHEIF?!?!

Is that the Middle-Eastern version of it? I can see it now....

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Yes, The Shief takes place in Baghdad and about a former Farmington District cop, helping our troops "smoke out" Osama bin-Laden and the other terrorists. I can't wait for it myself

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Thanks, Irish. That was the site I was trying to get to, but from Google, I couldn't get past the yellow screen. But it worked with your link. There's an addictive shooting range game on that site, btw. Looks like a good show, but what's different about it than other LAPD shows?

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It's a lot more intense, with more violance, language and nudity (not to mention humor)

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The Original Texas Chainsaw Massacre was on last night,that film is brilliant,you just have to imagine being in there situation and how daunting that would be.


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First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

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