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Re: Obama on Mount Rushmore
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I think Trump will just go ahead and have it put up there. Then when Hillary wins in 2020, she can hire a special prosecutor to charge him with vandalism. And he will do it under budget  Probably, but that isn't too tough when you don't pay your bills. When the bills come due, just don't pay the full amount and count on the small businesses not being able to afford the costs of pursuing you in court. A tried and true formula for the Trump organization. Or use bankruptcy.
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Re: Obama on Mount Rushmore
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01/13/17 11:01 AM
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You don't know much do you? You agree to do a job on budget. Then go overbuget he should pay you? You see the govenement pays with tax payer money so they don't give a shit. You live in NJ right. I can't understand why anyone would wanted to live in NJ. I have been in NJ now for two days watching my Grandaughter why my daughter is a way on a business trip. Be here to Monday it is like living in Hell. I go to a restraunt bill was cheap 70 dollars. I leave 140 I thought the girl was going to blow me
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Re: Obama on Mount Rushmore
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They gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize to calm the right wingers who were labeling him as a Hitler. They wanted Obama to have the reputation as a pacifist peace maker, for his own safety. Where do you get this bullshit. Obama was nominated for the Nobel award 11 days after he took office in 2009.With only 11 days as president how do they know he was a pacifist and we all know now that isn't true; he engaged war in Syria, Libya,Yemen and Afghanistan. He really messed up the middle east. he finished the wars that other United States presidents started. he should get credit for that another than ridicule
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Re: Obama on Mount Rushmore
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01/13/17 05:41 PM
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he finished the wars that other United States presidents started. he should get credit for that another than ridicule
No previous president started the wars in Libya, Yemen or Syria. Did Obama start the war in Libya and Yemen too? You mean by arming the rebels or was there more to it like CIA instigitang it?
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Re: Obama on Mount Rushmore
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You don't know much do you? You agree to do a job on budget. Then go overbuget he should pay you? You see the govenement pays with tax payer money so they don't give a shit. You live in NJ right. I can't understand why anyone would wanted to live in NJ. I have been in NJ now for two days watching my Grandaughter why my daughter is a way on a business trip. Be here to Monday it is like living in Hell. I go to a restraunt bill was cheap 70 dollars. I leave 140 I thought the girl was going to blow me I may live in NJ, but that gives me a unique perspective on the Trump business model. A friend of mine had a contract to paint at the Trump Taj Mahal. He finished ahead of schedule and the general contractor signed off that the work was completed on time and met all of the contract requirements. He received a check 3 months later for exactly 50% of what he was owed. He complained and was told his work was substandard. His only recourse was to sue, but the legal fees were going to eat up so much of the remaining 50%, plus the time to fight it meant he would be in court and not painting. He ended up accepting the payment. There are dozens of similar stories about his business practices - we NJ people are so used to hearing his bluster and then watching him hide behind multiple bankruptcies to avoid his obligations. I will sit back and watch the rest of the country get a dose of his double talk.
"After all, we are not communists"
Christopher Moltisanti: You ever think what a coincidence it is that Lou Gehrig died of Lou Gehrig's disease?
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Re: Obama on Mount Rushmore
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USA bombed Libya, Syria, drone attacks in Yemen and Somalia or Sudan, and all under Obama. Yeah he was pretty aggressive, just not invading countries like his predecessor. Rick did you hear Tommy of the RD passed away?
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Re: Obama on Mount Rushmore
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USA bombed Libya, Syria, drone attacks in Yemen and Somalia or Sudan, and all under Obama. Yeah he was pretty aggressive, just not invading countries like his predecessor. Rick did you hear Tommy of the RD passed away? Yes, I heard that. It might explain why he pulled out of RD. Only thing I remember about the guy is that he lived in Las Vegas. Was going to see about meeting up with him, but maybe his health problems prevented that. RIP.
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Re: Obama on Mount Rushmore
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USA bombed Libya, Syria, drone attacks in Yemen and Somalia or Sudan, and all under Obama. Yeah he was pretty aggressive, just not invading countries like his predecessor. Rick did you hear Tommy of the RD passed away? Yes, I heard that. It might explain why he pulled out of RD. Only thing I remember about the guy is that he lived in Las Vegas. Was going to see about meeting up with him, but maybe his health problems prevented that. RIP. Yeah and I believe he was a dealer at several casinos in his younger years. I remember him saying Michael Jordan was a generate gambler. RIP
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Re: Obama on Mount Rushmore
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You don't know much do you? You agree to do a job on budget. Then go overbuget he should pay you? You see the govenement pays with tax payer money so they don't give a shit. You live in NJ right. I can't understand why anyone would wanted to live in NJ. I have been in NJ now for two days watching my Grandaughter why my daughter is a way on a business trip. Be here to Monday it is like living in Hell. I go to a restraunt bill was cheap 70 dollars. I leave 140 I thought the girl was going to blow me I may live in NJ, but that gives me a unique perspective on the Trump business model. A friend of mine had a contract to paint at the Trump Taj Mahal. He finished ahead of schedule and the general contractor signed off that the work was completed on time and met all of the contract requirements. He received a check 3 months later for exactly 50% of what he was owed. He complained and was told his work was substandard. His only recourse was to sue, but the legal fees were going to eat up so much of the remaining 50%, plus the time to fight it meant he would be in court and not painting. He ended up accepting the payment. There are dozens of similar stories about his business practices - we NJ people are so used to hearing his bluster and then watching him hide behind multiple bankruptcies to avoid his obligations. I will sit back and watch the rest of the country get a dose of his double talk. So your friend does his own painting no employees of his do the painting for him? I have employees so I don't have to do this things myself. The difference with me is I pay up scale. Plus if a job was not done right they would never work for me again. Maybe your friend is right and the job was done right, and the trump organization just decided not to pay that would piss me if off as well, but I don't believe what you said. But if it did happen to me the trump people who did it better move where I could not find them or they might disappear some day. So if your friend got fucked he would just sue but can't sue he would just let it go? You need better friends.
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Re: Obama on Mount Rushmore
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01/16/17 11:34 AM
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You don't know much do you? You agree to do a job on budget. Then go overbuget he should pay you? You see the govenement pays with tax payer money so they don't give a shit. You live in NJ right. I can't understand why anyone would wanted to live in NJ. I have been in NJ now for two days watching my Grandaughter why my daughter is a way on a business trip. Be here to Monday it is like living in Hell. I go to a restraunt bill was cheap 70 dollars. I leave 140 I thought the girl was going to blow me I may live in NJ, but that gives me a unique perspective on the Trump business model. A friend of mine had a contract to paint at the Trump Taj Mahal. He finished ahead of schedule and the general contractor signed off that the work was completed on time and met all of the contract requirements. He received a check 3 months later for exactly 50% of what he was owed. He complained and was told his work was substandard. His only recourse was to sue, but the legal fees were going to eat up so much of the remaining 50%, plus the time to fight it meant he would be in court and not painting. He ended up accepting the payment. There are dozens of similar stories about his business practices - we NJ people are so used to hearing his bluster and then watching him hide behind multiple bankruptcies to avoid his obligations. I will sit back and watch the rest of the country get a dose of his double talk. So your friend does his own painting no employees of his do the painting for him? I have employees so I don't have to do this things myself. The difference with me is I pay up scale. Plus if a job was not done right they would never work for me again. Maybe your friend is right and the job was done right, and the trump organization just decided not to pay that would piss me if off as well, but I don't believe what you said. But if it did happen to me the trump people who did it better move where I could not find them or they might disappear some day. So if your friend got fucked he would just sue but can't sue he would just let it go? You need better friends. You don't believe me? I need better friends? You make fun of a relatively new company owner (back in the early 1990s) because he worked along side his employees? Why, to deflect from the shady and documented business practices of Trump? I do admit - he needed to be smarter about who he accepted jobs from. Luckily for him, Trump's multiple failures in NJ meant he didn't have to deal with him anymore. The Trump people, if they screwed you, would have to move or you would make them disappear? I'm sure they would cower in fright at the prospect of dealing with your wrath.
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Christopher Moltisanti: You ever think what a coincidence it is that Lou Gehrig died of Lou Gehrig's disease?
Tony Soprano: Yeah well, when you're married, you'll understand the importance of fresh produce.
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Re: Obama on Mount Rushmore
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01/22/17 05:16 PM
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USA bombed Libya, Syria, drone attacks in Yemen and Somalia or Sudan, and all under Obama. Right, but he did that after the wars were already started by the rebels. I think it's impossible for a US president to not a have some kind of a war somewhere nowadays, because the war machine needs to keep running. It's become a trend. Except that we absolutely didn't need to get involved in Libya, much more than the rest. Gaddafi had already given up his country's WMDs. Some think that because he was actively trying to create an African alliance and monetary system to rival the EU that Obama/Clinton undermined him so he'd be killed. They also supported the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt -- now declared a terrorist organization by several Middle Eastern countries, including Egypt. Once the Obama/Clinton-supported Muslim Brotherhood took over it implemented Sharia and attacks on Christians skyrocketed, including murders and church burnings. Egypt's economy was going down the tank. That's why the military took matters in it's own hands and overthrew the MB. Meanwhile, the Islamist radicals inspired by their success in Egypt destroyed Libya, which is now partially controlled by ISIS. None of this is defensible.
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Re: Obama on Mount Rushmore
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01/22/17 06:19 PM
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None of this is defensible. Or believable. Thus speaks the voice of massive ignorance. Back up every single point you made in that last comment about the Muslim Brotherhood with verifiable sources that aren't from some right wing website. I'll wait.
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Re: Obama on Mount Rushmore
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Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not for or against this. I'm not big on national monuments. They're symbols to me. Nothing more. I'm all about the here and now. But some people do want Obama on Mount Rushmore.
Is there a case?
I'll play devil's advocate and point out a few things.
1) He may have saved the country from going into a second depression. We were in an ugly recession when he took over. Malls were uncharacteristically empty Christmas of '08. The economy started to improve almost immediately after he took office. We were out of the recession later in 2009. The economic numbers are far better today than when he took office.
2) He killed Bin Laden. Bush couldn't even locate him, and with all of Bush's efforts in Iraq, he'd pretty much let Bin Laden run free. Obama kept the hunt on Bin Laden and eventually got him.
3) First black president. That is a huge accomplishment in a nation with such a history of racism. Think of all the black people in America who never thought they'd see a black president. His election was certainly a magical moment in U.S. history based on that alone.
Again, I'm not for or against Obama on Mount Rushmore. I couldn't care less. Just thought it would make an interesting topic. First black President. Get outta here. His dad abandoned him, moved out of country to avoid child support and his white grandparents raised and took care of him. Technically he is half white and half black. America has not elected a truly Black President. Not yet. I hope soon they do. A black Conservative Republican will be a blessing to America. wait so obama ain't black but a black republican (uncle tom) is a real black man? since when are people even considered half black in america? Why would a black Republican be considered an Uncle Tom? The party who opposed and fought to end slavery? Why would a black man support the party of the KKK, aka The Democratic Party. A party who to this day practice 'the bigotry of low expectations' to manipulate minority voters, treating black people like children or pets. A party who destroyed black communities through the creation of the welfare state, keeping poor blacks dependent on the state without ever attempting to meaningfully improve their circumstances. Do you ever wonder why all the sh1thole cities in America have majority Democrat councils? Stop being used by these people. Start reading great black political authors such as Thomas Sowell.
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Re: Obama on Mount Rushmore
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01/27/17 09:25 PM
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Name calling, labeling and smearing doesn't hurt his credibility.
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