Well I ordered a book I found online called you gotta be dirty about the history of the outlaws in Wisconsin. Should definitely have some Chicago stuff in it. Written by a Leo so it will probably be pretty dry and one dimensional but that region is of particular interest to me.

Free amazon prime trial means I will have it by Friday...

Disregard pretty much everything on that article except the inclusion of the main big clubs. The text is a joke. 4,000 vagos, sons of silence fighting for control in Arizona lol

The Bandidos were the only real international rival of the HA, but the club was split in 2007. Though Bandidos USA share a common name and a similar patch they are no longer associated with Bandidos MC in Europe, Asia and Australia. That leaves the HA at the top.

Worst news possible: the guy in the op's article is doing his book with Kerri droban, the worst motorcycle writing hack in the history of the United States.

And this guy is rumored out bad not retired. Man this could have been a good book without droban involved. Her hells angels book is the worst book on the club I've ever read (just from a general readership point of view), and her Charles falco book may be simply the worst book I have ever read.

Are there any books about Charlie?

Yes
1. 1967's The Bikeriders. B&W photos and text exactly as those '60's midwestern greasers talked. One of the top 3 club books of all time. In its own category, really. Based around Chicago Outlaws with other tri-state members. Mainly a photo book. Out of print for decades but recently repressed and affordable again. By Danny Lyons.

2. A book of stories published in the 2,000's by iirc a Wisconsin outlaw. Haven't read it. Mixed reviews. If you google outlaws mc books it will come up.

3. I thought there was a photo book published in like the early 2000's, mainly Florida guys? Couldn't find it when looking recently but sometimes these hardcovers are printing in limited runs, bought up mostly by members and just disappear. May have been 81 from another area but I thought it was outlaws.

4. The one I mentioned a couple posts earlier written by that cop mainly about their history in Wisconsin. Mine should arrive tomorrow.

5. That Kerrie droban/Charles falco book...he infiltrated a chapter or something briefly. It's in the second part of the book. Just sensationalized garbage nothing of substance. Terrible, terrible book.

Those are the ones I know of let me know if you know of others..,

I wonder what's the relationship between the Outlaws and Satan Disciples, Their clubhouse is within vicinity of the SD's territory.

Probably nothing just coincidence. What would either of those two groups want with each other? I mean unless sd were to try to extort protection money in the joint, or sd needed a mechanic or plumber

Thanks AC.

Quick question for the chi town and rest of board. So they guy scott wrote a article said this guy isnt a rat he helped outfit boss mike sarno try to intimidate a witness at sarno trial. So big mike sarno is in a high fed prison in vir. Do you think the east coast made guys introduce him to other made guys in prison as a friend of ours or whatever? Probaly. Sarno got smoked . Seems all the big time outfit guys do. My girls from poland and there funny . All people from poland will say they got a cousin or uncle in chicago. After watching that horrible cubs parade it looks nice but then i remeber every rapper from chiraq.

This outlaw biker helped try intimidate a witness? Sorry got s little lost in there. I think your question probably needs its own thread so the right members can offer opinions...

Depending on the nature of business such as guns , prostitution, or the usual drugs. I recall from another topic board in which a GD killed a Hells Angel and I think cooler heads prevail.

Common, Twista, Chuck Inglish, & Lupe Fiasco are favorable Chi rappers.

Got a link on the gd killing?

No it was a comment on the other topic with the only details I have is that it took place in Rockford 2013. A robbery type incident turn deadly. Right before the HA rally run and the HA killed was the local sergeant at arms. The GD was a juvenile (15) and that's all.

If you talking about the club on Division SD are not that strong over there.

Depends on your definition of strong. They have a few associations with them Outlaws and possibly a few became Outlaws.

Ok I'm halfway into the book about the outlaws mc in Wisconsin you gotta be dirty. Pretty dry so far I'm into the 1980's section now. Book is mostly old newspaper articles strewn together. No pictures or interviews.

1. It claims there was a nomad HA charter in Illinois in the mid-late 80's. Hadn't heard that before.

2. A Milwaukee club the sinners wouldn't bow down to the outlaws. Eventually the beat the president down and he fled to California due to fear the outlaws would kill his wife or kids. He became a hells angel and brought the club to Las Vegas.

He and his son were at a vegas wedding chapel when a group of mongols entered, this is 2014. There was an undercover with the mongols and they went in anyway looking for trouble. The HA saw a mongol reach for something and it was on. The HA's kid punched a mongol who happened to be the cop.

http://bnews.chopperguy.net/articles/201...peaks-out-video