I remember that guy, but I don't think its enough to conclude he's now on the other side.

Quebec's business registry lists a Giuseppe Franco as a principal for Il Tavolino, as well as listing some interrelated companies--one of the latter companies shows an Aurelio Franco as a principal for what appears to be a holding company for residential and commercial buildings. Il Tavolino and some of the other related companies, such as Billiard Colors Inc., are categorized in the registry as restaurants, night clubs, or establishments with video-lottery terminals (VLTs).

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...uisitionnee.php

Translation:

The residence of Andrew Scoppa, influential chieftain of the Montreal Mafia, was raided by police this morning in the northwest of the island of Montreal, learned the Press .

According to our information, the operation, which began around 8 am, was conducted by investigators from the Joint Regional Squad (ERM) north shore, in collaboration with the SPVM. The raid, which took place in the northwest of the island of Montreal, was conducted along with a dozen others performed in homes and vehicles, also on the island of Montreal.

This would involve searches conducted as part of a narcotics investigation ongoing.

Recall that last week, La Presse revealed that Andrew Scoppa and two other individuals were arrested and released on October 26 as part of an investigation into the seizure of more than 100 kilos of cocaine.

According to sources, the drug was, in part at least, found in a car parked in the parking lot of a gym Tower Canadiens in Montreal West.

Quebec's 81s are believed to be the new top dogs in the province's organized-crime landscape.

Crime organisé: les Hells Angels ont détrôné la mafia

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...ne-la-mafia.php

Merci, we already saw this with guys like Piccirilli.

Despite the organizational upheaval of organized crime in Quebec, there is no animosity between bikers and mafiosi, as well as individuals of both groups come together regularly and work together, according to our sources, making the line between Hells Angels and mafia increasingly diffuse.

Could it be possible that the recent murders were in part initiated by the bikers and some Italians? What do you guys think.

I had mentioned recently that it had been relatively quiet since spagjolo6 got clipped.

I find it to be very possible. Most of the individuals that have mounted the greatest opposition to the Rizzuto's all have strong ties to the bikers.....Mirarchi, DeVito, Scoppa, Piccirilli(recently formed his own MC).

I also forgot to mention the D'Amico's (ties to the Hells) from Granby, who started this fiasco back when Vito was arrested.

It shows the Bikers strength on the streets and their power in controlling the distribution. Like its deceptive, it may very well be that if you WANT to be a powerful mobster in Quebec, YOU GOTTA have a relationship with the bikers.

It ties into something Saviano touches on in 000. And also in John Roberts book. The more coke these people ship, the less money made per kilo. The distributors end up making way more money per kilo. In a weird way they kinda become just as, if not more important. This dynamic happened with the Mexicans.. Here another excerpt......

Now the Mexicans could aspire to have a seat at the business table too. That and more. Much more. That’s how it works in big companies too; the distributor often becomes the producer’s main competitor, and its earnings surpass the head company’s.


The dynamics are much more complicated than people make it out to be....

Speaking of them the deported Luigi D'Amico started a few succesful restaurants in his home country. Here he is with his staff.

http://graffitinews.it/a-s-egidio-parte-la-catena-di-ristoranti-la-sera/

Good find Hollander !

This time, a different paper reporting what La Presse reported a few days ago.

Les Hells imposent une taxe de 10% | Le Journal de Montréal

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2016/11/19/les-hells-imposent-une-taxe-de-10

It will be interesting to see how long this keeps up as I doubt the Italians will keep paying the bikers.

It will also be interesting to see who has the pull and influence within the mob to establish leadership

To keep the HA happy they will probably pay them, enough money to do so. They don't want a confrontation.

i doubt italian mafia pay something to ha in montreal, italian mafia is clearly by far the strongest criminal group there, it imports even more drugs than ha, it has tons of shooters and made montreal a war-zone... honestly, canada is a joke, there is not anti-mafia law, no informants

I just find there is something missing with this picture about the HA being in control.The journalist mentioned the Montreal mafia are no longer calling the shots but where does the Ontario Ndrangheta fit in this equation. Are we to conclude that this is a result of what was mentioned in the earlier articles that mentioned an alliance was taking place between HA & the Ontario Ndrangheta or is HA the sole head of the pyramid ? I just find these journalists keep us hanging and there is no follow up on the alledged alliance.

ha have nothing to do with the montreal war, it's an italian thing, in my opinion there are 2 strong factions killing eachother, 1 supported by the ndrangheta and the other by caruana- c untrera's

Assuming that were true,weren't there be a stream of killings in Toronto among the Caruana/Cun trera and Ndrangheta. It wouldn't be limited to Montreal. I don't mean to put holes in your theory, I am just asking ?

Many of the shooters are Haitians and police do have a lot of informants.

Ex Montreal Cop Tried To Sell Mafia Informants' List
CBC
Posted: 01/16/2012 9:11 pm EST Updated: 03/17/2012 5:12 am EDT

A retired Montreal police officer tried to sell a list of informants to the Mafia, according to information obtained by Radio-Canada.

After his retirement in January, the officer allegedly tried to sell the list for a six-figure sum.

Police said he was one of only two or three people who had access to the list.

Didier Deramond, of the Montreal police, said information was received in April 2011 through a wiretap investigation. That information led to the suspect's arrest in October, he said.

A search warrant was issued after his arrest, and the list of informants was seized.

Police said the identities have not been compromised.

No charges have been laid.

Deramond said the officer worked for Montreal police for more than 30 years.

A second person was arrested in connection with the case. Police said the investigation is ongoing.

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As much as we might believe the recent mafia war only included italian factions against each other, the biker component shouldnt be undermined. They were used and will continue to be a force as their geographical influence is far greater than the mafia or any ethnic gangs which are usually confined to large urban centers.

Certainly as we saw with the new table Vito put in place, bikers and gangs sat at the same table with the mafia and discussed, their importance has increased in the last decade.

It would be interesting to study the power dynamics between the 3 big crime groups operation in the area but the mafia seems weekened at the moment.

+1

Apart from small disputes,the HA and the mafia always respected each others territory.
When the bikers in Montreal had their wars in the 90's. Although Vito leaned more with HA,they chose the role of mediator between HA and the Rock Machine.They could of moved in and seek more control but chose not to. Now we are supposed to believe that HA are now in control and no questions asked. I am suspicious that there is something else going on here. Why would HA risk a possible war in the future with the mafia. All it takes is a few police raids on the HA to unbalance the scale and a war can break out again. Unless the Mafia or the Mafia dissidents decided to make an alliance with HA. If this is not the case then I find it remarkable that the HA were able to takeover without losing one MC member. It is too hard to believe.

I don't believe the Italians or other groups are paying the HA 10% because they have to but they want to have their support. They are equal partners for a very long time.

We have yet to see if thats true. It's nice to have an opinion and all and to voice it, but to say like you'd know for sure that the Bikers aren't involved in whats going on in Montreal nowadays, in some capacity, I think thats a bit of a reach. I also wouldn't say the Montreal Mafia is the strongest OC group in Montreal either, with so much in fighting going on now, and with the constant rise of the Hells even when they're leaders were jailed, and the consolidation they made with some of the black street gangs and turning them into HA subsets, I think the Biker gangs, mostly the Hells, are at least somewhat equal to the Montreal Mafia.

Sebastien Comtois, president of the Devils Ghosts of Montreal, a junior club of the Hells Angels, is among the individuals arrested yesterday in an operation to dismantle a drug trafficking network. The first chapter of Devils Ghosts was founded in 2012 and was sponsored by the influential member of the Hells Angels Salvatore Cazzetta and Sergio Piccirilli.

i think that the murders of verduci, calautti, the attempt to rocco di paola and others were carried out by caruana-c untrera's, so yes there were killings also in toronto

according to who? there is not any evidence that the shooters are haitians, maybe a couple, but not many as you claim...
if they had so many informers they would know what's happen, the police seems to know almost nothing about the war

The montreal ex-cop who killed himself had a list with 2,000 informants and undercover agents.

Verduci got clipped by the Figliomeni brothers, according to Italian documents.

Calautti owed money to alot of people, including his own organization. Coluccio took on 200k in debt he owed to the Montreal group.