Well again man, I got a cousin who went to jail at 13 for BLAZING AT THE POLICE, this was something when I was coming up was a regular thing, that doc wasn't lying police were petrified of going there....
You make kinda weird threads, I don't really understand what exactly you are trying to say....

When there is a deterioration of authority, an abundance of poverty, a lack of legitimate alternatives, and an expansive black market, these things you mention are what usually happens, as far as criminal groups competing with the government. What I don't understand, I mean, people die for their gangs everyday, take 25-30 years for their gang everyday. But gang leaders usually aren't in control of borders where billions in merchandise are moved annually. If this was the case guys, if they were assured their families would be taken care of, would certainly Die for their gang, boss whatever, people die every day for nothing lol

Chris Coke in Jamaica, ton of power, took the whole government to take him down, same with Escobar in Colombia, Riina in Sicily, it's a repeating thing if you actually really study this stuff. I don't really get why you make it a racial thing, when really it's money and fear. Most of what you see is what happens when the government fails to establish a monopoly on the use of power. And this happens over and over in the poorest nations who are more vulnerable.

It's like when people compare street gangs to mafia families, kinda silly comparison. Why don't you look at other cartels to compare the Mexican cartels to, like the calabrians? Much more apt comparison, Imo..."