How come no one brings up the Blinky Palermo connection to Sonny Liston and Ali's 2 bouts against Liston? I mean the 2nd fight I believe contained the phantom punch that was pretty clear evidence that he took a dive no? I mean I'm not suggesting Ali wasn't an all time great or wouldn't have been the champ eventually, but does anyone else think that Ali got his first title bc the other guy took a dive? Not sure if there was any rumblings that the first match was fixed by Palermo/Carbo, but I think there's some evidence to indicate the 2nd one was?

Can anyone shed more light on this issue? I'm only 30 so wasnt alive when Ali was fighting and have just a conversational knowledge of boxing history..


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