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Re: Most powerful LCN families today in north america [Re: BillyBrizzi] #912199
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Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Always a great pleasure reading your posts Cabrini..

i agree +

Re: Most powerful LCN families today in north america [Re: carminezazzi] #912640
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One thing ppl should keep in mind. When dealing with Latin American cartels the ONLY group that can take drugs on "credit" are the Calabrians. NO ONE else. That should say something to ppl.

It would be very difficult for even the higher level US mobsters to even get a meeting with higher level Mexican or South American cartel members. Let alone make a deal.

The American mafia is local... the Calabrians are global. One "family" can have people all over the world.

Taking NFL bets is small time stuff. Other groups own mines in Africa, arm warlords etc etc. The American mafia families never really left their "home base".

Re: Most powerful LCN families today in north america [Re: spartan] #912641
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Originally Posted By: spartan
One thing ppl should keep in mind. When dealing with Latin American cartels the ONLY group that can take drugs on "credit" are the Calabrians. NO ONE else. That should say something to ppl.

It would be very difficult for even the higher level US mobsters to even get a meeting with higher level Mexican or South American cartel members. Let alone make a deal.

The American mafia is local... the Calabrians are global. One "family" can have people all over the world.

Taking NFL bets is small time stuff. Other groups own mines in Africa, arm warlords etc etc. The American mafia families never really left their "home base".

There is Any lcn member/crew/family that will had any kind of deal with the cartels or with any south american crime gang ?

Re: Most powerful LCN families today in north america [Re: MeyerLansky] #912644
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Originally Posted By: MeyerLansky
Originally Posted By: spartan
One thing ppl should keep in mind. When dealing with Latin American cartels the ONLY group that can take drugs on "credit" are the Calabrians. NO ONE else. That should say something to ppl.

It would be very difficult for even the higher level US mobsters to even get a meeting with higher level Mexican or South American cartel members. Let alone make a deal.

The American mafia is local... the Calabrians are global. One "family" can have people all over the world.

Taking NFL bets is small time stuff. Other groups own mines in Africa, arm warlords etc etc. The American mafia families never really left their "home base".

There is Any lcn member/crew/family that will had any kind of deal with the cartels or with any south american crime gang ?


The only one I can think of who had an inkling of LCN background (but wasn't a made member by any means) was Jon Roberts, born Riccobono, the nephew of the old Gambino consigliere Joseph Riccobono.

The American Mafia wasn't really connected to the Cartels, but the Sicilian Cosa Nostra did have some solid contacts in the Medellin cartel according to turncoat Antonino Giuffrè. He said that the Corleonesi gave advice to Escobar's people on how to fight the Colombian state.

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Re: Most powerful LCN families today in north america [Re: BillyBrizzi] #912648
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Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: MeyerLansky
Originally Posted By: spartan
One thing ppl should keep in mind. When dealing with Latin American cartels the ONLY group that can take drugs on "credit" are the Calabrians. NO ONE else. That should say something to ppl.

It would be very difficult for even the higher level US mobsters to even get a meeting with higher level Mexican or South American cartel members. Let alone make a deal.

The American mafia is local... the Calabrians are global. One "family" can have people all over the world.

Taking NFL bets is small time stuff. Other groups own mines in Africa, arm warlords etc etc. The American mafia families never really left their "home base".

There is Any lcn member/crew/family that will had any kind of deal with the cartels or with any south american crime gang ?


The only one I can think of who had an inkling of LCN background (but wasn't a made member by any means) was Jon Roberts, born Riccobono, the nephew of the old Gambino consigliere Joseph Riccobono.

The American Mafia wasn't really connected to the Cartels, but the Sicilian Cosa Nostra did have some solid contacts in the Medellin cartel according to turncoat Antonino Giuffrè. He said that the Corleonesi gave advice to Escobar's people on how to fight the Colombian state.


Whole lot of good that did both of them


"It wasn't very good parsley to begin with, and then the cat went and peed on it." -Sicilian proverb
Re: Most powerful LCN families today in north america [Re: Stubbs] #912657
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Originally Posted By: Stubbs

Whole lot of good that did both of them


Indeed Stubbs, in the end you always lose against the government, especially the U.S. government.

We can't forget though that there was a time that Escobar made a sweet deal with the Colombian president. He would stop the violence and the government wouldn't extradite him to the U.S. and let him do time in a prison of his choosing. He built the prison himself and it turned out to be something more like country estate with a beautiful mansion. He made the mistake to start killing people there and even sneak out once in a while. When the CIA found out, the U.S. put pressure on Cesar Gaviria to do something about it. Fucking that deal up was the biggest mistake of Escobar's career.


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Re: Most powerful LCN families today in north america [Re: BillyBrizzi] #912676
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well escobar said that its better die in colombia then being is us jail so...

Re: Most powerful LCN families today in north america [Re: BillyBrizzi] #912735
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Originally Posted By: BillyBrizzi
Originally Posted By: Stubbs

Whole lot of good that did both of them


Indeed Stubbs, in the end you always lose against the government, especially the U.S. government.

We can't forget though that there was a time that Escobar made a sweet deal with the Colombian president. He would stop the violence and the government wouldn't extradite him to the U.S. and let him do time in a prison of his choosing. He built the prison himself and it turned out to be something more like country estate with a beautiful mansion. He made the mistake to start killing people there and even sneak out once in a while. When the CIA found out, the U.S. put pressure on Cesar Gaviria to do something about it. Fucking that deal up was the biggest mistake of Escobar's career.


Indeed. Thanks for mentioning that Escobar was getting wartime advice from the Sicilians. I hadnt heard that.

Escobar was simply too big, brazen, and infamous. If we was more lowkey he mightve lasted longer, but he was really the worlds first drug lord. So, it's not like he had decades of other drug lords before him to learn from.


"It wasn't very good parsley to begin with, and then the cat went and peed on it." -Sicilian proverb
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