Those families listed above are it. And it's not me saying so. It's the feds. And the comperative cases in these cities bare this out. There are still living members, some active, in other areas but there isn't a viable family in these sense of having an identifiable formal hierarchy or ongoing activity. And that's what you're looking for when talking about organized crime. Some may want to use their own criteria to add this or that family but I have no interest in that. I go with what the feds and cases over the past 15 years say. Otherwise you have every Tom, Dick, and Harry coming up with their own lists based on whatever.