Originally Posted By: CabriniGreen
@Sinatra


That's what I think, Carlo wanted the capos to become Angelo Pontes, legit like Profacis heirs, legit like Tore Locasio, legit like a Chicago Tony, Victor Colletti; Like Bonnano almost got a third interest in Saputos billion dollar dairy company, moves like that one. That's what Carlo saw as the future, not 30, 40 years later and there still like, still in the streets.



Take that Ferttita family , I think that was the natural progression that the Gambino, Catena type guys were going for.



It's like take Naples, they control the Garment Center, and as a result, they control untold numbers of retail outlets. In the book Gommorah, he says that this network is more important than the drug trafficking. Sinatra, you mentioned Boss of Bosses, remember the part where Paul is talking about the Garment Center with a couple of his guys? They were talking about how the Gambino rep, basically for like years, maybe decades just showed up and collected his money. Never really tried to build or anything, and they lost ground to the Chinese eventually. They shoulda had probably most of the NY market by now, and legit too. It's like they never leveraged the opportunity into something bigger. ( I know they got the trucking, but it should be trucking, supplying the materials to the shops, to supplying the equipment like sewing machines, I mean every aspect they should have sewn up...)



That's what guys like Carlo understood; The Michael Corleone model, the transition to corporate thuggery, lol


I'm not sure the Naples comparison is apples to apples. The Italian crime groups, like the Camorra, have a lot more manpower, in a much smaller country, where the political and business sectors are more easily corrupted, and law enforcement isn't as effective.

One thing OC experts have noted about the NY mob is that it usually showed a surprising amount of restraint when it came to controlling certain legitimate industries. Even when it might have controlled more, it was typically content to only maintain control of certain parts.

It was the government that the mob lost ground to when it came to the garment center. Any which way they did things, the eventual racketeering, extortion, and restraint of trade charges would have come sooner or later.


Mods should mind their own business and leave poster's profile signatures alone.