Ivy this whole time i have said the Detroit mob is a gambling operation and hardly a big and powerful family. Not once have i said that. What i have argued is the family has a hierarchy and is viable and you said yourself there is a argument for both points


i competly disagree with you on scott and i dont understand where you got these dates for where scott got these made guys from maybe your right maybe i have not looked far enough and your right not everything he says is gospel truth anyone who is believes that is wrong (you could say that for all mob journalists) but i still personally and many others on this board enjoy his articles and we believe most of what he says. He has also written for gangland before and if capeci values his opinion then that must mean something

i respect your opinion on most of the mob familys but i disagree with you on scott and certain things in the Detroit mob


i have said my opinion we all have our own views