I'll say it again, what exactly is the argument? If they are a family at all' or if they are powerful?

Cause again, to me it's seems clear cut, they ARE a family, but not very powerful or big. However, they don't seem to need to be a Iarge sized family, I do see them as VERY capable...

We need a definition for " Viable Family", some sort of guidelines that takes the confusion out.


How about this, can we debate and come up with an acceptable agreement as to what constitues a viable family?




Let's use Philly vs Detroit, as they are in a similar situation, (state of decline)why would one consider Philly viable and vice versa? Why would they not be viable and vice versa, it just occurred to me this might need another thread, but ehh... Any thoughts?