Does anyone know anything about who these guys in Borgesi's crew are? Perhaps the same group of guys often seen around his brother in South Philly or a different crew?

I don't believe in the 4 factions thing...no matter how you cut it all crews is giving joey his cut...borgessi was told to go and earn and thats what he's doing. Borgessi probally got kicked down to captin and now he's starting his own crew...in a couple of years someone in his crew will get made

Thanks for the responses.....There may not be a war in philly but I think I hit on a warring topic.

Are there even 3 factions within like Anastasia said? If war was to break out, which faction would reign supreme? Does anyone in philly's administration have any connection to NY in 2015 or, are they all alone since the Natale/Merlino vs. Stanfa days?

Good point , And it my just be starting to develop with just about everyone back on the street and several new guys and several guys Around .

Eventually that's what you will see someone getting close to a family in NY like Skinny has made a point of lately himself .

Skinny has been busy trying to do the right thing to watch his back he has been networking a bit lately .
Wonder if that has anything to do with watching his back .

Does anyone know anything about who these guys in Borgesi's crew are? Perhaps the same group of guys often seen around his brother in South Philly or a different crew?

They have a full administration and 4 active crews. How are they not active? From everything I've read, there is still a lot of gambling and loan sharking money to be made. Those poker machines alone made millions for a couple of guys.

[quote=Southphilly4ever]
"The volatile Borgesi, Ligambi's nephew, is still moving and shaking in Delaware County just outside of Philadelphia where he is believed to have re-established connections with his former sports betting and loansharking partners.

A dispute over those businesses is what caused the bad blood between Borgesi and Angelina, a longtime Merlino confidante."

Who is Merlino closer with between the two of them ( Borgesi / Angelina. ? Was Borgesi made By Stanfa ? When was Angelina made?
Borgesi was around Scarfo and crew ( in few pictures ) so is the old Scarfo guys somewhat closer to him then Merlino ?

Borgesi was made by Merlino. I think the only ones that were made by Sanfa were Merlino and Michael Ciangalini, both in 1989 I think. Merlino/Stanfa made Johnny Ciangalini, Borgesi, Angelina and Lancalotti and others. And Merlino's crew were basically descendants of the Scarfo guys so there is probably a lot of pics of them together from the 1980s.

No doubt Ted , I just thought the different heads or skippers or other would have pushed back more obvious than it's been .

There is something up other then a Standard New York style family . But this is not uncommon it was not till Bruno that the family had structure similar to New York .

(If you look at Philly before Bruno/ Scarfo it was all separate families or each crew had their own boss or head up family divided mostly by Sicilian Calabrese .)

It is a wait and see type of thing . Obvious Skinny is at the top of his !!!

"They're fighting over coffins or prison cells."

She looks like Joey with long hair, same body type as well.

According to this week's Gang Land:

"The volatile Borgesi, Ligambi's nephew, is still moving and shaking in Delaware County just outside of Philadelphia where he is believed to have re-established connections with his former sports betting and loansharking partners.

A dispute over those businesses is what caused the bad blood between Borgesi and Angelina, a longtime Merlino confidante."

[i]"He told me he was the `coon-see' (consigliere)," Aponick said. He also said that Borgesi told him his uncle (Ligambi) was the boss but that the crime family "belonged" to Joey Merlino, Steven Mazzone and Borgesi, all three of whom were convicted in the 2001 racketeering case.
"He said the family belonged to him, Merlino and Mazzone," Aponick said. "His uncle was minding the store (and) would have a step aside" when they came out of prison. If not, Borgesi said, Ligambi or anyone else trying to run the organization "would have serious problems."[/i

[quote=Ted][quote=sickstylemob12][quote=Ted][quote=Southphilly4ever]
"Borgesi was made by Merlino. I think the only ones that were made by Sanfa were Merlino and Michael Ciangalini, both in 1989 I think. Merlino/Stanfa made Johnny Ciangalini, Borgesi, Angelina and Lancalotti and others. And Merlino's crew were basically descendants of the Scarfo guys so there is probably a lot of pics of them together from the 1980s.

That's one of Ol' Georgie's favorite lines, according to him Maria Merlino said that on a taped telephone conversation..

Kinda feel sorry for the woman how Salvie Testa ditched her not long before they were supposed to get married.
I also always wondered how she looked..