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Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #871264
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Nobody is scared of the mafia in general anymore, its not just philly, you go to the bloods, crips or latin kings and tell them they have to pay taxes and watch what would happen.and a gangster is a gangster until the day they die, there's old men that will take your head off if you give them a reason to, and guys are probally already coming up missing you just won't hear about it until the next indictment...if garb is disrespecting made guys the way people says that he is something might happen down the line, violence is how you protect your business without that everybody would take your rackets from you


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Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: thebigfella] #871265
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Originally Posted By: thebigfella
Nobody is scared of the mafia in general anymore, its not just philly, you go to the bloods, crips or latin kings and tell them they have to pay taxes and watch what would happen.and a gangster is a gangster until the day they die, there's old men that will take your head off if you give them a reason to, and guys are probally already coming up missing you just won't hear about it until the next indictment...if garb is disrespecting made guys the way people says that he is something might happen down the line, violence is how you protect your business without that everybody would take your rackets from you


Exactly !!!


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Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: SinatraClub] #871269
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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Merlino was in Philly yesterday for a New Years Eve celebration with the whole crew. And nobody is saying Philly LCN is afraid of 10th & O. They're saying that no one is afraid of Philly LCN.

And I doubt "heads will roll" because Joey is involved. "Heads weren't rolling" when he was actually active. Some of us tend to give Joey Merlino too much credit.


All of this is coming from reliable sources, guys who have been proven legit in the past. There's two of them on that forum. And they're both saying the same things in regards to the current landscape.


Big NYE pre mummers party, joey, uncle joe, wagners, grande, niccodemo wife,they get after it all night and this morning for the parade which is 2nd to none

Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: Blackjack2121] #871277
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thats what i said, ive lived down here my whole life, this thread makes tent and O sound like the purple gang from harlem back in the 70s and not one name besides "Garbs" havent heard a peep about 10 and O since Genie Wilson and the Henri's

Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #871283
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Can somebody create a Wikipedia page on the 10th and O gang so people can begin using it as a reliable source?


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Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #871288
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Wikipedia isn't a reliable source though...Lets make this clear, nobody is calling 10th & O the Mayfield Road Mob. Although they too consisted of a few people, but had a lot of clout through the midwest, like Vegas. As far as I know, 10th & O is a drug crew and always have been...Not one name except for Garbs have you heard about. Yet this whole thing is mainly about Narducci & Garbarino. Since at least as early as 2014, reports have circulated that Narducci has some hanger ons who are 10th & O guys, who operate in his rackets. Thats not to say Narducci has an army behind him. But he has young men willing to die for him, who are around him. Simple as that, nothing more, nothing less. Thats it. Thats all thats being said, the few guys who around Narducci, mainly Garbarino, are punking known button men. Thats all there is to it.

Now theres some feeling going on around this forum, by SOME, I was guilty of it myself at one point, that Joey Merlino is some Michael Corleone and that Philly is quietly regrouping into the biggest, most money earning, toughest mob family on the East Coast. So it's understandable that some may not want to hear that they truly may just be a fractured bunch with a couple of guys loyal to the overall scheme and agenda of Cosa Nostra, and on the other hand, guys whom are old and young, who have their crews and just want to make money, be left alone , and dont give a shit as to what happens to Joey and his men.

And once a gangster always a gangster, is true, but then its not. Its a reason why you hear of some mob guys who are high ranking, doing the work themselves, because as wiretaps have proved, some of them actually do believe that a lack of action, makes them soft. I don't know about that. And while Joey was gangster in his life, he wasn't the only one. He lost a war against a real mob boss, and luckily came out on top in the end due to attrition. And we have yet to see if there are anymore Nicodemos left, or a guy like Grande is even willing to take a risk again of killing a guy.

Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: Blackjack2121] #871289
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In Fresolones book, Scoops isn't painted in a great light. Maybe he's such a earner because he's so cheap. Lol...Fresolone claims he always had a problem kicking up and feigned being broke but always wanted what was owed to him. He caught a lucky break when Patty Specs died. At least according to Fresolone. Had it not been for that Specs probably would've had him killed. He wasn't very fond to Tony Piccolo either. He survived a war of attrition. And the way he shitted on the guys that Patty & Tony had made, was some asshole shit.

Oh, and here's some new info, which was probably what Phillyguy was referring to earlier on about the stuff with Johnny Chang. Apparently, a day or so after the Baldino kid gets sliced on the neck, he's in a diner with one of his buddies and Johnny Chang is there sitting at another table, but they're all pretty close to each other. Johnny Garbs walks in and walks up to the Baldino kid and says that what happened last night (the bottle incident) is over, and that if goes running his mouth to anybody, he's going to smash his face in and the face of anyone else who feels they want to get involved..Garbs then asks the kid who's with Baldino if he's with him, the kid says "well he's my friend", and Garbs says "well you're getting a beating too"...Mind you, Johnny Chang was in the vicinity the whole time and didn't do shit. The source says that the word is that Johnny Chang was once a helluva tough guy, but now he no longer has the stomach for violence. And that people outside of Philly LCN or on the fringes, really can't understand how an underboss, capo, soldier or whatever can go against a lifelong friend and made guy (Phil Narducci) and defend his jerkoff nephew. He says this is why current Philly LCN is a mess, nobody fears them. And the younger 10th & O guys, now have a more fearsome rep than Philly's Cosa Nostra family does.


Just because some rat says it in a book doesnt make it true...Scoops is wideley respected

Besides, lots of these guys cry broke so they dont have to kick up as much

its an age old trick



I didn't say Scoops wasnt respected. I just said what Fresolone said, and here we go with this "he's a rat, he's lying". I don't know if he was lying, but I will say this, it's possible, very possible that at that point in time, Scoops wasn't that respected by the guys in his family. He wasn't made until '86 when most of the Scarfo guys were going away, he was suspected of being a snitch by some Jersey Genovese guys. And Specs pulled some strings and had him made anyway. There's evidence from Stanfa wiretaps that Piccolo nor Stanfa liked him very much. So you can't say Fresolone is lying as Scoops is one of the guys whom both Piccolo & Stanfa says had no stomach for the war or the worser things that come with mob life. So there's that.


He's an earner no doubt. But Fresolones claims aren't exactly "unfounded".

Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: SinatraClub] #871303
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[quote=SinatraClub]Wikipedia isn't a reliable source though...

That Wikipedia comment was 100 % joke... everyone knows it's not reliable


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Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: Serpiente] #871312
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Originally Posted By: Serpiente
Originally Posted By: italy100
Anybody know Scarfo's grandson? Heard the guy is a serious high roller and has been seen in AC occasionally. Always with a big crowd too guy is kind of scary


You are a little right !!! Someone is blowing it up ....

And Nicky son Chris did not Disown His father . He got away from the life . Chris found himself getting involved a little to much .and like many father son the banged heads . Chris had him self a good girl and A decent head on his shoulders and knew if he wanted any kind of life he had to change his name in order to get into business and make a life for himself .
He is involved in his fathers life and talks about the old days every time the boys are out having and good time .
The Boys??..R U 1of the boys???? hmmmm...By the way Serp,Happy new year,I bet your now not wearing t-shirts & shorts like last week down there!


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Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: DelcoNostra] #871320
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Originally Posted By: DelcoNostra
[quote=SinatraClub]Wikipedia isn't a reliable source though...

That Wikipedia comment was 100 % joke... everyone knows it's not reliable



I know it was, but if you're the same Delco guy from RD, that response was a joke too as I had included "...But you are right? Because, you know, "you're in the streets"?

Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #871367
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That murmur parade or whatever it's called made the front page of every newspaper and tmz for that joke they made of Bruce Jenner. Guess you can't make jokes of anybody anymore.

Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: PHL_Mob] #871374
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italy100 is right, there are 100s of people affiliated with them. For you people not in South Philly it would be hard for you to understand that it's more like a small town community rather than a city. The Philly LCN has many of hanger ons that work 9-5 jobs and do just a little bit on the side just to be a part of the lifestyle. Aside from Steve Mazzone, Johnny Chang and Mike Lancelotti the rest of the mob guys are always seen out around here with a group of guys, many have their own social clubs and you can find them often at Stoggie Joe's which seems to be their place.


Is Stogie's owned by someone connected or in the family? It's an open restaurant so obviously not really a clubhouse or whatever but seems to be a meeting place from what I've seen personally as well as on here from others. That pic I posted of Chickie Chang yesterday was right outside of Stogie Joe's. Also as I mentioned above, it used to be the building where the Scarfo Mob had their de-facto headquarters, which was referred to by Nicky Crow as the Camac & Moore Clubhouse. Anyone else have any info on Stogie Joe's? It's peaked my interest a bit. Also, where's this bar that Stevie and Georgie are opening going to be if anyone knows or has any relevant info on that? Finally, does anyone know where any of these active hangouts/clubhouses/social clubs are nowadays? Besides the Broadway Theatrical Club and Jesters hangout? I know there's another one right off of Broad on Bigler and then there's also another on or around 17th & Snyder that looks like it could be? Any input or info would be great!



I just left there about 40 mins ago. Seen both John Jr. And John Sr. and a 3rd younger guy I didn't recognize.

Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #871386
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Photo on RD of what appears to be Joey Merlino, and maybe Ray Wags with Joe Ligambi at a NYE party. Wags in his black leather coat, so is some big dude next to him who's barely in the picture, looking like they're straight out of casting for the Sopranos.

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Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #871395
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I saw that pic too, Uncle Joe had on a sharp suit I must say

Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #871396
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Can someone post here please?


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Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: SinatraClub] #871399
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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
Merlino was in Philly yesterday for a New Years Eve celebration with the whole crew. And nobody is saying Philly LCN is afraid of 10th & O. They're saying that no one is afraid of Philly LCN.

And I doubt "heads will roll" because Joey is involved. "Heads weren't rolling" when he was actually active. Some of us tend to give Joey Merlino too much credit.


All of this is coming from reliable sources, guys who have been proven legit in the past. There's two of them on that forum. And they're both saying the same things in regards to the current landscape.


Yup, Slim was in Philly for the Mummer's Parade. There are pics out there too.

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Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #871401
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Whoever took that pic should upgrade their phone.

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Originally Posted By: MusclesMarinara
Whoever took that pic should upgrade their phone.


That...and it is blurry cuz it looks like they were trying to sneak it real fast and take it without consent lmao

Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #871404
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Haha makes sense. Looks like they're having fun.

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Just sent you a PM blackjack.

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Oh boy, are you with the FBI? lol

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Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Oh boy, are you with the FBI? lol


Haha yeah, Agent Harris here.

Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: ItalianIrishMix] #871410
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Wags looks badass


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Wags looks like Bobby Baccalieri...

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http://gangsterreport.com/skinny-joey-do...ragile-balance/

Scott's article on the Philly mob. Not much news more of a overview of the situation. It didn't mention the stabbing but did say tensions wwre rising with Johnny chang and Philip and that philip is no longer kicking up to Steve mazzone any sort of trbute which he apparently was earlier out of respect


Not connected with scott or anyone at gangsterreport

Sorry for the confusion
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I don'y know where people get their stories from. First of all I know Narducci and he has never kicked up any money to anybody and never would. The guy is no part of these guys and is doing all legitimate business out here. Please get your stories straight. Ask around on the streets of Philly and you will find out for yourselves.

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Your saying narducci is a legit guy really come on I don't think he is with the mob he apparently kicked a little up to Steve awhile back out of respect for the guy because philip respected him. Your telling me you don't think philip doesn't have a book or shy going on is that what your telling me even though he spends all his time with the 10th and oregon. People who are knowledgablen about Philly I have read seem to have a different opinion not said he was ever part of Merlino and those guys but he is hardly a legit business man

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Not connected with scott or anyone at gangsterreport

Sorry for the confusion
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That is not wags in that pic.

Re: Why is Philly so quiet, where is the war? [Re: flamingokid123] #871433
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Originally Posted By: flamingokid123
That is not wags in that pic.

Def not wags ... You're right

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