Originally Posted By: Blackjack2121
Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
In Fresolones book, Scoops isn't painted in a great light. Maybe he's such a earner because he's so cheap. Lol...Fresolone claims he always had a problem kicking up and feigned being broke but always wanted what was owed to him. He caught a lucky break when Patty Specs died. At least according to Fresolone. Had it not been for that Specs probably would've had him killed. He wasn't very fond to Tony Piccolo either. He survived a war of attrition. And the way he shitted on the guys that Patty & Tony had made, was some asshole shit.

Oh, and here's some new info, which was probably what Phillyguy was referring to earlier on about the stuff with Johnny Chang. Apparently, a day or so after the Baldino kid gets sliced on the neck, he's in a diner with one of his buddies and Johnny Chang is there sitting at another table, but they're all pretty close to each other. Johnny Garbs walks in and walks up to the Baldino kid and says that what happened last night (the bottle incident) is over, and that if goes running his mouth to anybody, he's going to smash his face in and the face of anyone else who feels they want to get involved..Garbs then asks the kid who's with Baldino if he's with him, the kid says "well he's my friend", and Garbs says "well you're getting a beating too"...Mind you, Johnny Chang was in the vicinity the whole time and didn't do shit. The source says that the word is that Johnny Chang was once a helluva tough guy, but now he no longer has the stomach for violence. And that people outside of Philly LCN or on the fringes, really can't understand how an underboss, capo, soldier or whatever can go against a lifelong friend and made guy (Phil Narducci) and defend his jerkoff nephew. He says this is why current Philly LCN is a mess, nobody fears them. And the younger 10th & O guys, now have a more fearsome rep than Philly's Cosa Nostra family does.


Just because some rat says it in a book doesnt make it true...Scoops is wideley respected

Besides, lots of these guys cry broke so they dont have to kick up as much

its an age old trick



I didn't say Scoops wasnt respected. I just said what Fresolone said, and here we go with this "he's a rat, he's lying". I don't know if he was lying, but I will say this, it's possible, very possible that at that point in time, Scoops wasn't that respected by the guys in his family. He wasn't made until '86 when most of the Scarfo guys were going away, he was suspected of being a snitch by some Jersey Genovese guys. And Specs pulled some strings and had him made anyway. There's evidence from Stanfa wiretaps that Piccolo nor Stanfa liked him very much. So you can't say Fresolone is lying as Scoops is one of the guys whom both Piccolo & Stanfa says had no stomach for the war or the worser things that come with mob life. So there's that.


He's an earner no doubt. But Fresolones claims aren't exactly "unfounded".