Yeah I'm not agreeing with everything Italy is saying Tommy. I was just piggy backing off of his comment (whether Italy is being serious or not I don't know) and saying that the Philly mob is in fact stronger than many know and have way more people "with" them then any chart or list has. Believe it or not there's much more secrecy than you'd know. Many made guys that no one has ever heard of on here and you won't find anything on Philly.com or any news archives, etc. And yes, as controversial or hard to believe as it might be, I truly do feel as though they have a degree of involvement in unions and construction. I don't know about corrupt cops, but that's just because I personally don't have anything to back that claim so I'm here nor there on that one.