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Colombo's Beginning to Recover? #866053
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4 or 5 years ago they were being absolutely hammered by the Feds, so many convictions, rats etc, I remember reading an article (maybe Capeci) back then that said they were down to only 50 members, have they since then recovered slightly? New leadership, made members? etc.

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: NickyScarfo] #866054
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4 guys being released next year also , Michael uvino , michael catapano who have served as captains of the franseze crew and soldiers Emanuel favuzza and Craig Marino

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: NickyScarfo] #866057
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I think yes. The persicos got a few of the blood family out on the street to take orders. Just read that carbone guy said to a wired up guy he just got his button. I'm still waiting for when the feds sentence that cop killer dino calabro that thing been swept under the rug a long time and when they ask the judge for reduce time when no one else has been convicted of the murder the police union gonna goes nuts.

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: pmac] #868323
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Probably. Time will tell. They certainly have quite a few guys coming out in the near future.

Does anyone know where Teddy Sr. stands these days? Has Andy retired?

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: NickyScarfo] #868328
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Good info Dom. Cheers.

Pmac: who's this Carbone guy? And good post about Calabro. Be interested to see how that plays out.

Anyone have last official fed number count of the Bo's? I recall 100 active.


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Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: SonnyBlackstein] #868333
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Originally Posted By: SonnyBlackstein
Good info Dom. Cheers.

Pmac: who's this Carbone guy? And good post about Calabro. Be interested to see how that plays out.

Anyone have last official fed number count of the Bo's? I recall 100 active.


Yea Sonny last I read was they had 100 made men, be interested to know their official count if anyone has any insight?


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Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: NickyScarfo] #868337
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The latest official estimates put the family at approximately 100 total members. Back in 2004 there were 112 known members. Active on the street would obviously be less.

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Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: NickyScarfo] #868367
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They have ventured out of the regular staples of the mob again... That means there are a few good guys at the top doing the right things ..


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Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: pmac] #868376
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Originally Posted By: pmac
I think yes. The persicos got a few of the blood family out on the street to take orders. Just read that carbone guy said to a wired up guy he just got his button. I'm still waiting for when the feds sentence that cop killer dino calabro that thing been swept under the rug a long time and when they ask the judge for reduce time when no one else has been convicted of the murder the police union gonna goes nuts.


Where did you read that?

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: NickyScarfo] #868388
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Daily news or the post. He said to a wired up cw that he got his button they wanted to use it at his sentencing. The guy is a triplet they all are identical. There all mobed up.

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: pmac] #868394
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Here it is
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Accused mobster gets 70 months for drugs, money laundering despite plea from FDNY widow

BY JOHN MARZULLI
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Thursday, November 5, 2015, 12:54 PM

A plea for mercy from the widow of a hero firefighter didn't do much good for a reputed Colombo gangster who was sentenced Thursday to 70 months in prison for drugs and money laundering crimes.

John Cerbone, 43, who does double duty as a plumber and a goodfella, tried to portray himself as a good guy, too, in his bid for a five-year sentence.

Linda Graffagnino had written to Federal Judge Nicholas Garaufis that Cerbone had helped take care of her two young children after her husband Joseph was killed in the Deutsche Bank fire in 2007. Cerbone is a longtime friend of Linda Graffagnino and is dating her sister.

"He's a good guy, that's wonderful," Garaufis said. "But he also had to do what he has to do to be law-abiding in other respects."

Assistant Brooklyn U.S. Attorney Elizabeth Geddes stated in court papers that Cerbone is a member of Colombo capo Joseph Amato's crew, and had suggested to an informant last year that he had been inducted into the crime family as a made man.

Cerbone is a triplet and his two brothers attended the sentencing. Last year Cerbone tried to pass himself off as his brother Joseph when a Drug Enforcement Administration agent handed him a subpoena.

The mobster shed his blue dress shirt and donned a red T-shirt in a pathetic attempt to confuse the media outside Brooklyn Federal Court. Linda Graffagnino declined to comment.

Cerbone pleaded guilty to distributing cocaine, marijuana and oxycodone pills, and laundering the illicit proceeds after he was caught in a sting operation.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-...ticle-1.2424706

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: NickyScarfo] #868396
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Guerras sentence was reduced. Anyone know to what?

To the original topic, the Colombos, I'd imagine they will start to bounce back once the Feds exhaust all the convictions they can from the war. That ruined their family.

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: NickyScarfo] #873652
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Andy Russo is rebuilding that family. They are recovering, it is more quality than quantity this time around it seems.


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Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: mightyhealthy] #873670
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Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Guerras sentence was reduced. Anyone know to what?

To the original topic, the Colombos, I'd imagine they will start to bounce back once the Feds exhaust all the convictions they can from the war. That ruined their family.


Name: FRANCIS GUERRA

Register Number: 10636-051

Age: 50
Race: White
Sex: Male

Release Date: 06/05/2021

Located At: FCI Fort Dix

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: NickyScarfo] #873671
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Wow, I can't believe he's getting out in five. He's been connected to so many murders.

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: NickyScarfo] #873673
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Guerra was acquitted of Levine, hydell and of another murder but was sentenced In 2013 to 14 y for drugs. So will made only 8 y.
For sure will be made. John Pappa his pal wasn't so lucky and get life.

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: furio_from_naples] #873691
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Guerra was acquitted of Levine, hydell and of another murder but was sentenced In 2013 to 14 y for drugs. So will made only 8 y.
For sure will be made. John Pappa his pal wasn't so lucky and get life.


BF already turned down the button. He's not interested in that bullshit.

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: NickyScarfo] #873693
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And you know this how?

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: SinatraClub] #873695
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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
And you know this how?


It was brought up during the trial.

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: ralphie_cifaretto] #873696
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By MITCHEL MADDUX, New York Post, October 31, 2011

It’s an honor they can live without.

Becoming a “made” member of one of the city’s five crime families was once the goal of every ambitious mobster -- and an offer definitely not to be refused -- but those days are gone, authorities told The Post.

With rats lurking around every corner and aggressive feds breathing down wiseguys’ necks, many lower-ranking Mafiosi have been doing what was once unthinkable -- saying “no thanks’’ to the title.

Low-level associates may earn less, but there’s also a better chance they’ll stay out of prison.

They believe that becoming a made man or soldier makes them a bigger target for the FBI, experts say.

“Getting your ‘button’ is like putting an ‘X’ on your back. You’re basically on the radar,” a law-enforcement source said.

A Brooklyn federal prosecutor just last week detailed how Joseph Petillo -- “a longtime and very well-respected associate” of the Colombo crime family -- recently decided to pass on an offer to be made.

“The Colombo family believed, based on Mr. Petillo’s prior history, that he would be a valuable member of the Colombo family. The Colombo family sought his membership,” Assistant US Attorney Liz Geddes told a federal judge.

But in the end, Petillo “turned down an offer of membership,” Geddes said.

Other criminals have made similar decisions -- among them Gambino, Bonanno and other Colombo crime-family associates, sources say.

Some modern mobsters have other reasons.

One Gambino associate declined an offer because “he didn’t want to put the crime family before his own family,” a source said, referring to the mob’s oath of allegiance, which calls for members to do just that.

Some mob associates who run lucrative illicit businesses also believe they can make more money if they aren’t made, because members have to “kick up” a larger percentage of their earnings to the family’s leadership, experts said.

By remaining an associate, “you’re more independent, you’re more on your own,” a defense lawyer explained.

Such decisions are a far cry from the heyday of the New York mob in the 1970s, when turning down an offer to become a made man was tantamount to signing your own death warrant.

“Years ago, it would be like disobeying orders -- literally from the boss,” an attorney said.

Today, in certain circumstances, the mob leadership appears to understand and accept the reasoning behind turning down promotions.

When Colombo associate Francis “B.F.” Guerra declined an offer from the Colombos, he had the heft and standing within the mob community to make such a decision without repercussions, FBI Agent Scott Curtis testified recently.

“Everybody knows his reputation and all the criminal activities he’s done in the past. He doesn’t need a title to carry that reputation around,” Curtis said.

“It depends who they were and their reputation.’’


Other experts say the decision to remain an associate is a clever move that might help a mobster sidestep charges under the feds’ powerful racketeering, or RICO, statutes, which require prosecutors to prove membership in a criminal enterprise.

John Meringolo, a New York Law School professor, said that in the eyes of the Justice Department, “a ‘soldier’ is automatically involved in the RICO conspiracy.”

Proving an associate was involved in a RICO conspiracy can be more challenging, he said.

http://nypost.com/2011/10/31/la-cosa-nostra/

Re: Colombo's Beginning to Recover? [Re: NickyScarfo] #873708
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I see. A fed testified that he turned it down, who gave him the information though, it couldn't have come from BF himself. Like the Porky situation with the Bonanno's and how word got out that he was too rich and shit to deal with the going on's of the Crime Family, only to be seen on surveillance at meetings and shit, anything can change. But I see your point, BF is among the Joe Watt's of the criminal underworld, guys with enough pull that they don't necessarily have to be made. But unless it comes from BF himself, one can assume that he may accept the button down the road after his release, or he may not.

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Originally Posted By: SinatraClub
But unless it comes from BF himself, one can assume that he may accept the button down the road after his release, or he may not.


We can assume anything we want, and yeah maybe he will get made someday. However, this came from a federal agent and not a poster. The feds have resources we don't have and they tend to be right on the money when it comes to these things. The Porky situation is a good example, because I think both of us can be fairly sure they knew Porky was active all along. Almost everybody on these boards thought he had retired.

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Is he a full Italian?

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Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto
Here it is
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Accused mobster gets 70 months for drugs, money laundering despite plea from FDNY widow

BY JOHN MARZULLI
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Thursday, November 5, 2015, 12:54 PM

A plea for mercy from the widow of a hero firefighter didn't do much good for a reputed Colombo gangster who was sentenced Thursday to 70 months in prison for drugs and money laundering crimes.

John Cerbone, 43, who does double duty as a plumber and a goodfella, tried to portray himself as a good guy, too, in his bid for a five-year sentence.

Linda Graffagnino had written to Federal Judge Nicholas Garaufis that Cerbone had helped take care of her two young children after her husband Joseph was killed in the Deutsche Bank fire in 2007. Cerbone is a longtime friend of Linda Graffagnino and is dating her sister.

"He's a good guy, that's wonderful," Garaufis said. "But he also had to do what he has to do to be law-abiding in other respects."

Assistant Brooklyn U.S. Attorney Elizabeth Geddes stated in court papers that Cerbone is a member of Colombo capo Joseph Amato's crew, and had suggested to an informant last year that he had been inducted into the crime family as a made man.

Cerbone is a triplet and his two brothers attended the sentencing. Last year Cerbone tried to pass himself off as his brother Joseph when a Drug Enforcement Administration agent handed him a subpoena.

The mobster shed his blue dress shirt and donned a red T-shirt in a pathetic attempt to confuse the media outside Brooklyn Federal Court. Linda Graffagnino declined to comment.

Cerbone pleaded guilty to distributing cocaine, marijuana and oxycodone pills, and laundering the illicit proceeds after he was caught in a sting operation.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-...ticle-1.2424706



This guy is family ... Not just mob...Cerbone

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Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto


A Brooklyn federal prosecutor just last week detailed how Joseph Petillo -- “a longtime and very well-respected associate” of the Colombo crime family -- recently decided to pass on an offer to be made.

“The Colombo family believed, based on Mr. Petillo’s prior history, that he would be a valuable member of the Colombo family. The Colombo family sought his membership,” Assistant US Attorney Liz Geddes told a federal judge.

But in the end, Petillo “turned down an offer of membership,” Geddes said.
Is that the same Petillo who went on MSNBC's underworld gambling and told the word he's a bookmaker and his cousin hurts his players ?? They should be able to do better then him !!

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Originally Posted By: ralphie_cifaretto


A Brooklyn federal prosecutor just last week detailed how Joseph Petillo -- “a longtime and very well-respected associate” of the Colombo crime family -- recently decided to pass on an offer to be made.

“The Colombo family believed, based on Mr. Petillo’s prior history, that he would be a valuable member of the Colombo family. The Colombo family sought his membership,” Assistant US Attorney Liz Geddes told a federal judge.

But in the end, Petillo “turned down an offer of membership,” Geddes said.
Is that the same Petillo who went on MSNBC's underworld gambling and told the word he's a bookmaker and his cousin hurts his players ?? They should be able to do better then him !!


nah, that was frank pontillo. guy got jammed up on something and ratted, even ratted on his own dad, and then shows up on tv a few years later driving around manhattan with a film crew doing a docuseries about being a bookie. that was perplexing to say the least. either it was all an act for the show, or he really is running around his home turf after ratting, taking bets. his ratting helped set off some other cooperators and played a decent part in that huge city wide mob bust in 2011

i remember that doc because his book middled all of the bets on the uva michigan state game in the 2014 ncaa tourney and made like football season money on that one game

the frank pontillo guy was always in trouble. he sold oxy too i think if i remember correctly he got caught with like 500 30 mg pills while he was awaiting sentencing for another charge

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A Brooklyn federal prosecutor just last week detailed how Joseph Petillo -- “a longtime and very well-respected associate” of the Colombo crime family -- recently decided to pass on an offer to be made.

“The Colombo family believed, based on Mr. Petillo’s prior history, that he would be a valuable member of the Colombo family. The Colombo family sought his membership,” Assistant US Attorney Liz Geddes told a federal judge.

But in the end, Petillo “turned down an offer of membership,” Geddes said.
Is that the same Petillo who went on MSNBC's underworld gambling and told the word he's a bookmaker and his cousin hurts his players ?? They should be able to do better then him !!


nah, that was frank pontillo. guy got jammed up on something and ratted, even ratted on his own dad, and then shows up on tv a few years later driving around manhattan with a film crew doing a docuseries about being a bookie. that was perplexing to say the least. either it was all an act for the show, or he really is running around his home turf after ratting, taking bets.

i remember that doc because his book middled all of the bets on the uva michigan state game in the 2014 ncaa tourney and made like football season money on that one game
Yeah, that was the show...Good documentary, but not too much brains there..He was also in that tv special ''gangsters actors guild''

So he ratted on his own father ?? Geez !!

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No not many of them have any brains at all lol

Rebuilding? Yes honestly not anymore than normal...

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Both petillo and ni**er Dom both turned down buttons from what I've heard . Dor relatively young guys they have been around that family for a long ass time. Both petillo and nig Dom were under wild bill. Ha so if these guys are in their mid 40s. That means they have been around Cutolo's crew since they were literally late teens early 20s. Crazy no one really ever has any info on black Dom. .

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Skinny hit my line got a new phone .. Same number.

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