"It is difficult to chart the history of the Philadelphia Mafia, given its frequent personnel changes caused by the violent deaths of several of its members."
Quote from 3rd Circuit opinion in United States v. Pungitore, 910 F.2d 1084 (3d Cir. 1990).
Wonderful quote and very true
There are literally so many of them, its almost hard to catch them all. I'm just now reading through a 3rd Circuit opinion from 1983 involving the Chestnut Hill Lincoln Mercury Dealership staged robbery, a bunch of numbers operations and loansharking from the late 70s where govt had wiretapped Frank's Cabana Steak House, Tyrone DeNittis Talent Agency, and C. Warren Check Cashing Company. For some reaason, Carl Ippolito was found incompetent to stand trial and I havent gotten to why yet. Before the trial even started, 5 of some 12 defendants were killed -- Bruno, Phil Testa, Narducci, Sindone, and Simone; and Pat the Cat was whacked pending the appeal. Lol.
I've heard all these people obviously except for Carl Ippolito? What family was he with?
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"It is difficult to chart the history of the Philadelphia Mafia, given its frequent personnel changes caused by the violent deaths of several of its members."
Quote from 3rd Circuit opinion in United States v. Pungitore, 910 F.2d 1084 (3d Cir. 1990).
Wonderful quote and very true
He was an associate of Stanfa's Florida crew... There are literally so many of them, its almost hard to catch them all. I'm just now reading through a 3rd Circuit opinion from 1983 involving the Chestnut Hill Lincoln Mercury Dealership staged robbery, a bunch of numbers operations and loansharking from the late 70s where govt had wiretapped Frank's Cabana Steak House, Tyrone DeNittis Talent Agency, and C. Warren Check Cashing Company. For some reaason, Carl Ippolito was found incompetent to stand trial and I havent gotten to why yet. Before the trial even started, 5 of some 12 defendants were killed -- Bruno, Phil Testa, Narducci, Sindone, and Simone; and Pat the Cat was whacked pending the appeal. Lol.
I've heard all these people obviously except for Carl Ippolito? What family was he with?
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
Martines is how it's spelled I think, guy was made under Stanfa and was with the Riccobenes prior,had a last name similar to Bonnano mobster John Morales , then again his nickname was "Spanish Frank" but I doubt he was actually Spanish
I think you actually may be right with the spelling. The court opinion has Frank's last name spelled as Martines.
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
I've heard all these people obviously except for Carl Ippolito? What family was he with?
99% sure he was a made guy with the Bruno family in philly but he was based out of Trenton. They used to call him Pappy or something like that.
Stanfa's Florida crew. With Santo Idone and Anthony "Spike" Gregorio
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
Yeah, I was just looking for the part of Anastasia's book, The Last Gangster, where he tells the time frame. It was when Stanfa was kind of ousted by the family for causing a bunch of craziness. Idone and Gregorio definitely spent some time in PA/NJ. Once I find the passage I'll update you.
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
Looks like Pappy Ippolito was Joey Ipp's uncle. Joey Ippolito was a pretty big drug guy. There's a photo of Joey Ipp and Jimmy Coonan from the westies together at one of the prisons they were at. I think Joey's Ipp's father was with the DeCavalcante's.
Jacklynn this one site has a page on a few of the guys you mentioned being down in Florida but i'm not sure on the years.
Just reading the NJ SCI investigation reports from 1991 on OC in bars explains how unbelievably profitable these guys were before Mr. MTV Merlino took over. Obviously, nothing near what Bruno was able to do b/c of his respect from NY, but I never knew the number of south jersey and philly bars the Bruno/Scarfo family had a dip in. Not to mention the freakin Medford Country Club!!!!
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
And seriously, the number of people Leonetti has taken down in court...how is he still alive? If I were affiliated with any of them and saw the Mafia Prince's little book, I would have gone straight bananas! Ugh. Natale is one thing, but how MTV Merlino is allowing Leonetti to out-pretty him, is just sad.
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
I've heard all these people obviously except for Carl Ippolito? What family was he with?
99% sure he was a made guy with the Bruno family in philly but he was based out of Trenton. They used to call him Pappy or something like that.
You were right! And ask anyone I know, and they will tell you how hard it is for me to admit that. lol. But Ill never admit saying it now...
"...Carl “Pappy” Ippolito and it took awhile for Ippolito to get his money back.Ippolito, who was a member of the Family from the Trenton, N.J., area.."
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
Just reading the NJ SCI investigation reports from 1991 on OC in bars explains how unbelievably profitable these guys were before Mr. MTV Merlino took over.
OCbars1 and OCbars2 are great reads. A ton of good info in them.
It seems like every time I look up info on one murder, I find three more! lol. The list continues to grow
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
Okay my fellow Fhilthadelphians...I just got "Prince" Leonetti's book. I apologize now for any future rants on how much of a sell out he is. I'm in no way condoning "that life" but if you are going to take the oath, then take the oath and die by the oath.
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
Isn't that something JackieLynn and alot of these people say the feds and the law are wasting their time on these guys,their just a couple of old bookmakers from the neighborhood,go after the real criminals.Jackie is murder a crime?
I have seen it spelled both ways. I originally had it spelled Martines, then I actually just saw it spelled with a 'z' the last few times. I attached a pic.
I know their family and his son lets you know its "Martines" with an "S"
Okay my fellow Fhilthadelphians...I just got "Prince" Leonetti's book. I apologize now for any future rants on how much of a sell out he is. I'm in no way condoning "that life" but if you are going to take the oath, then take the oath and die by the oath.
It's actually a pretty decent read Jacklynn, i think you'll enjoy it.
One thing Leonetti say's throughout the book is how alot of the guys didn't realise that NY picked the boss and without their approval you could not become the boss of the family.
That does seem to have been the case up until the time of Joey Merlino. Say what you want about Merlino but it sure seemed like he didn't give a shit if NY approved of him or not. First philly guy to stand up to those meddling NY bosses. I read Tino Fiumara wanted Joey and his pals to come up north for a chat, where there was a good chance they would of been hit. Joey told Tino something like, you want to talk, well come down to philly and we'll talk here. That takes balls my friends to tell a feared guy like Tino Fiumara your not interested in having a talk with him unless it's on your home turf. Not too many people that annoyed Tino lived after pissing him off. Without a doubt Fiumara was the most feared gangster in jersey at the time.
Okay my fellow Fhilthadelphians...I just got "Prince" Leonetti's book. I apologize now for any future rants on how much of a sell out he is. I'm in no way condoning "that life" but if you are going to take the oath, then take the oath and die by the oath.
It's actually a pretty decent read Jacklynn, i think you'll enjoy it.
One thing Leonetti say's throughout the book is how alot of the guys didn't realise that NY picked the boss and without their approval you could not become the boss of the family.
That does seem to have been the case up until the time of Joey Merlino. Say what you want about Merlino but it sure seemed like he didn't give a shit if NY approved of him or not. First philly guy to stand up to those meddling NY bosses. I read Tino Fiumara wanted Joey and his pals to come up north for a chat, where there was a good chance they would of been hit. Joey told Tino something like, you want to talk, well come down to philly and we'll talk here. That takes balls my friends to tell a feared guy like Tino Fiumara your not interested in having a talk with him unless it's on your home turf. Not too many people that annoyed Tino lived after pissing him off. Without a doubt Fiumara was the most feared gangster in jersey at the time.
i remember hearing this story a few times
Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife? Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.
For the record I don't doubt the story. Just would like to read it. I am an avid reader and book nut
Who knows if it's really true or not, but i definitely read it somewhere. Merlino isn't a guy who i really think much of (as a boss), but when i read he blew Tino off i had to give the guy props for having the balls to do it. It definitely caught my attention when i read it.
Speaking of going for a ride up north,was that basically the demise of Dutchie Avicoli.Wasn't he good friends with Merlino so he basically went on his own free will and never came back.Is that how it went,and was it because he was messing with somebody's lady.
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Speaking of going for a ride up north,was that basically the demise of Dutchie Avicoli.Wasn't he good friends with Merlino so he basically went on his own free will and never came back.Is that how it went,and was it because he was messing with somebody's lady.
I have no idea if it's true or not but i remember hearing that Avicoli was messin with the wrong guys wife, and it wasn't Merlino's.
Yes, they were. In Leonetti's book there's a photo of Spike with Leonetti's son in the Scarf Inc office.
Idone's been around since at least Bruno who bumped him up to capo in 1976 or 77. Didn't he run the rackets in Chester?
I got it from the book to. I have to re-read though. I read it so fast the first time I want to see what I missed or can't remember.
Same here, when i read it the second time i noticed a few things that i missed the first time around.
Pretty sure Spike was originally a south philly guy and Leonetti said he was basically the caretaker for Scarfo's florida house. He kept the place in shape for Nicky when the guys were up north or in jail. Leonetti said everyone liked Spike and that he was a real happy go lucky guy but that he also was a "degenerate gambler and con man" who owed everyone, and would "steal anything he could get his hands on". lol
I really don't know too much else about DiGregorio besides what Leonetti wrote in his book.
Okay my fellow Fhilthadelphians...I just got "Prince" Leonetti's book. I apologize now for any future rants on how much of a sell out he is. I'm in no way condoning "that life" but if you are going to take the oath, then take the oath and die by the oath.
It's actually a pretty decent read Jacklynn, i think you'll enjoy it.
One thing Leonetti say's throughout the book is how alot of the guys didn't realise that NY picked the boss and without their approval you could not become the boss of the family.
That does seem to have been the case up until the time of Joey Merlino. Say what you want about Merlino but it sure seemed like he didn't give a shit if NY approved of him or not. First philly guy to stand up to those meddling NY bosses. I read Tino Fiumara wanted Joey and his pals to come up north for a chat, where there was a good chance they would of been hit. Joey told Tino something like, you want to talk, well come down to philly and we'll talk here. That takes balls my friends to tell a feared guy like Tino Fiumara your not interested in having a talk with him unless it's on your home turf. Not too many people that annoyed Tino lived after pissing him off. Without a doubt Fiumara was the most feared gangster in jersey at the time.
Im not really impressed. Its really easy to say all he says after serving 5 years, 5 months, and 5 days...despite admitting over 20 murders. That disgusts me as a citizen, as a lawyer, as a human being. Not only that, but he is profiting off it all. Again, Im just as guilty because I purchased the book (well I didnt, but guilted a friend into buying it for me. lol).
I dont like him. And maybe that biases me toward the book. Not to mention that I wasnt 8 pages in and I find a typo, and then a second one on pg 17. (sorry Im an editor, and I sleep with red pens near me).
"Goodfellas don't sue goodfellas. . . . Goodfellas kill goodfellas." ~ Salvatore Profaci in bugged NJ mob lawyer Sal Avena's office
“This was the Volkswagen of racketeering charges” ~ Def. Attorney Ed Jacobs, Jr.
"Meanwhile, I got the uncle who wants me out of the way.... Great family, aren't they? This is what it's all about." ~Louis "Bent-Finger Louie" Monacello
"It was a wholesale annihilation.... How many times do they want to be beat? Because I'm frankly getting tired of it. They went fishing for Joe Ligambi, and the jury gave them Gary Battaglini.” ~ Def Atty Christopher Warren
