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Wu Tang clan brought up in staten island drug case #865549
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Wu-Tang Clan Was Investigated by FBI in Two 1999 Murders
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By Colin Stutz | November 03, 2015 9:15 PM EST

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Members of the Wu-Tang Clan were investigated for allegedly ordering two men's murders in 1999, according to recently released documents.

The allegations come from a federal trial of two Staten Island drug kingpins, brothers Anthony and Harvey Christian, stating that two men may have been murdered because they robbed Wu-Tang founding members RZA and Raekwon's family members. Last October, the Christian brothers were found guilty of running a major drug-dealing operation for 20 years and Anthony Christian was also found guilty of orchestrating a 1999.

With sentencing against the drug lords on its way, Anthony Christian's lawyer Michael Gold has requested "all police files" about the Wu-Tang Clan's alleged involvement in the murder of 17-year-old Jerome (Boo Boo) Estella, as well as those of a second man named Corey (Shank Bank) Brooker. He contends that information in Wu-Tang Clan member Ol' Dirty Bastard's FBI file alleges the murder was pulled off "at the instruction of members of the Wu-Tang Clan." Ol' Dirty Bastard's FBI file was released in a heavily-redacted form in 2012.

"These reports seem to suggest someone else was liable for those murders. I'm not suggesting that Wu-Tang committed these crimes. The FBI did," Gold told the Staten Island Advance. "What I'm trying to ascertain is their stated belief in an official file that Wu-Tang ordered this homicide."

In response, the federal prosecutors issued a filing last month describing what information they had sent in the trial's discovery process, noting RZA and Raekwon's possible role in the killings. They stated Gold already had all reverent information prior to the trial and that none of it provided evidence that might exonerate his client.


The prosecutor's information was based on 1999 interviews with Brian Humphreys, a Bloods gang member who later turned federal informant, who was the gunman in Estella's killing and testified against the kingpin Christian brothers.

"A couple of weeks before the Boo Boo [Estella]shooting, Uncles (the street name of drug supplier-turned-informant Paul Ford) told Humphreys about a Blood named Boo Boo who just came home from jail," the filing reads. "He stated that Boo Boo had robbed RZA's little brother and had also gotten into something with the Christian brothers."

It continues, "Uncles was talking about Boo Boo and said that he had just come home and robbed RZA's brother and that they would likely come after him for that. Humphreys believes Uncles was referring to members of Wu Tang."

The prosecutors' documents also mention conversations involving the drug supplier-turned-informant Ford, Bloods-member-turned informant Humphreys and kingpin Anthony Christian about Brooker who was shot to death on June 22, 1999.

Ford claimed Brooker had robbed RZA's brother and Raekwon's cousin, prompting RZA to issue a $30,000 contract for Brooker's murder, according to the documents.

The filing reads, "Ford stated that he had previously heard that Shank Bank [Brooker]was killed by Phife (ph). Ford believes that Phife collected money from RZA for executing the hit." There is no explanation of to whom the name "Phife" refers.

Prosecutors contend they that Estella's robbing RZA's brother would have reinforced Anthony Christian's desire to organize his killing, since such robberies were bad for the drug trade.

Anthony and Harvey Christian were arrested in 2011. Anthony Christian faces a mandatory life sentence; Harvey Christian faces 40 years to life in federal prison.

Read the federal prosecutor's court filing and the 2012 release of Ol' Dirty Bastard's FBI file here.

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Not buying this one.

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Can't believe these guys ran a drug empire for TWENTY years!

You'd think in year 16 or so they'd consider moving on. Guess not.

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So after all these years what they say is true. The Shaolin and the Wu Tang is very dangerous.

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Originally Posted By: MusclesMarinara
So after all these years what they say is true. The Shaolin and the Wu Tang is very dangerous.


lol

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High time to put on some 36 Chambers again.

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I was just listening to some C.R.E.A.M. the other day too.

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Originally Posted By: dixiemafia
I was just listening to some C.R.E.A.M. the other day too.


Whole album is classic! Wu-Tang and Cypress Hill were always my favorite hip hop bands. Hip hop from that era always had that rebel attitude and especially Wu-Tang displayed a sense of originality that always resonated well with Metal fans like me.

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But i thought Wu Tang is for the children.

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Wu-Tang are generally underrated in terms of rappers who have done the most dirt instead of all those West Coast and Southern artists

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Quote:
There is no explanation of to whom the name "Phife" refers.

The five foot assassin with the ruffneck business



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A couple of weeks before the Boo Boo shooting...”


That’s just about the cutest sentence about a murder I’ve ever read.

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Originally Posted By: Scorsese
But i thought Wu Tang is for the children.


lol

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I was just listening to some C.R.E.A.M. the other day too.


Whole album is classic! Wu-Tang and Cypress Hill were always my favorite hip hop bands. Hip hop from that era always had that rebel attitude and especially Wu-Tang displayed a sense of originality that always resonated well with Metal fans like me.


Yes it is. I was a big fan of both too. Cypress Hill's first album was my favorite. UGK was probably my favorite from that era and is probably still my favorite rap group though. I guess being a kid from the South I connected to it more than the others. I remember we would buy bootleg cassettes at the local flea market, of course at 11 or 12 you don't know what a "bootleg tape" was lol Then when I hit 15 I think it was, was when they started checking ID's on explicit tapes. So I had to wait a year to legally buy them so we definitely hit the flea market for bootlegs.

My favorite Wu-Tang line: "diversify your bonds" off of Chappelle's Show lol

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I was just listening to some C.R.E.A.M. the other day too.


Whole album is classic! Wu-Tang and Cypress Hill were always my favorite hip hop bands. Hip hop from that era always had that rebel attitude and especially Wu-Tang displayed a sense of originality that always resonated well with Metal fans like me.


Yes it is. I was a big fan of both too. Cypress Hill's first album was my favorite. UGK was probably my favorite from that era and is probably still my favorite rap group though. I guess being a kid from the South I connected to it more than the others. I remember we would buy bootleg cassettes at the local flea market, of course at 11 or 12 you don't know what a "bootleg tape" was lol Then when I hit 15 I think it was, was when they started checking ID's on explicit tapes. So I had to wait a year to legally buy them so we definitely hit the flea market for bootlegs.

My favorite Wu-Tang line: "diversify your bonds nigga" off of Chappelle's Show lol


LMAO yeah, Wu-Tang Financial lol

For some reason the Southern rap crews of that era never found some cross over into Europe. When people in Europe think of "Southern rap", they mostly think of those Atlanta-based crunk bands. Personally I don't really like that stuff. It's a bit one ear in, out the other.

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I don't think these bloods knew that killah priest would leave them split like ass cheeks and ragged pussy lips.

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Wu-Tang was "associated" with the Gambinos. Its been documented by the FBI. They even made a song called "Wu-Gambinos".

God, I LOVED Wu-Tang growing up and I still do listen to them. They gotta be in their 50s almost now!

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Originally Posted By: DanteMoltisanti
Wu-Tang was "associated" with the Gambinos. Its been documented by the FBI. They even made a song called "Wu-Gambinos".


That is most likely false. The FBI has never documented that. When RZA endorsed hillary clinton for president i think back in 2008 fox news basically tried to use that against her which is where that rumour basically gained. They just use alot of mob terminology in their music but then again they use alot of kung fu references too.

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Originally Posted By: DanteMoltisanti
Wu-Tang was "associated" with the Gambinos. Its been documented by the FBI. They even made a song called "Wu-Gambinos".


Has it ever been mentioned on this site about what specific involvement Biggie Smalls had with the Westside? Im pretty sure the FBI has stated for a fact that he did have some connection with the family.

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again thats probably also false info based on either a rapper named genovese that was hanging around bad boy. Or a pathological liar and con man james sabatino who was going around posing as a music executive and scamming hotels. He was also telling people that his dad was a member of the colombo crime family which turned out to be false. The guy is very disturbed. The gangsters with documented ties to bad boy records and associates are hatian jack, jimmy rosemond, eric martin, southside compton crips and BMF.

The only documented mob connection to wu tang is fbi informant michael caruso who was an ectasy dealer and associate of chris paciello. He flipped on some nightclub owner and some mobsters and then somehow got a job managing some of the wu tang clan.

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NEWS
2 MEN STABBED DURING PARTY AT NEW JERSEY HOME OF RAPPER RZA

Sunday, November 08, 2015 02:56PM
MILLSTONE TOWNSHIP, N.J. -- Two men were hospitalized with stab wounds following an argument at a party at the New Jersey home of rapper RZA.

Authorities say the stabbing happened early Saturday in Millstone Township. Police did not identify the homeowner, but public records show it is the residence of the Wu-Tang Clan founder, whose real name is Robert Fitzgerald Diggs. The rapper performed at a festival in Texas on Saturday night.

It's not clear if either of the injured men were involved in the dispute or if they were innocent bystanders. Both were hospitalized but authorities said their injuries are not considered life-threatening.

Messages left with representatives for RZA by The Associated Press were not immediately returned.


http://abc7ny.com/news/2-men-stabbed-during-party-at-new-jersey-home-of-rapper-rza/1074440/


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Part of what led to the end of the Chappelle Show is evident here. Dave started feeling conflicted about the type of humor/language he was using and felt that some in the audience were laughing AT him instead of WITH him.

I've heard certain words used in films and particularly gangster films, and it's never led me to use those words in conversations.That's just me,though.Even if I was the type of person to use those words in real life, I'd have the common courtesy not to use them in public forums where I might offend someone, but again that's just me.

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Originally Posted By: DanteMoltisanti
Wu-Tang was "associated" with the Gambinos. Its been documented by the FBI. They even made a song called "Wu-Gambinos".

God, I LOVED Wu-Tang growing up and I still do listen to them. They gotta be in their 50s almost now!


GZA is oldest at 49.

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Originally Posted By: mightyhealthy
Not buying this one.


What exactly is there not to buy? As old as they are, this is from the late 90's, where Wu-Tang, as a rap group were still popular. But keep in mind these guys grew up in the streets, and have always been known to have connections with various criminals and some crime groups, even going as far as being considered on themselves. But the point is, these guys don't have to be the kingpins to have things like this done for them. As long as that connection back to the real hitters in the street is there, these things are always possible. However I doubt RZA is dragged into this and is actually penalized for it.

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Also don't forget that Wu-Tangs have multiple cliques associated together.


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anyone hear about the shooting/murder this morning at the mcdonalds near penn station in manhattan? don't know what its related to but my brother is staying a block away from where it happened right now. said he heard the shots early this morning.. guess 3 guys got shot.. 1 died I think.

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Not buying this one.


What exactly is there not to buy? As old as they are, this is from the late 90's, where Wu-Tang, as a rap group were still popular. But keep in mind these guys grew up in the streets, and have always been known to have connections with various criminals and some crime groups, even going as far as being considered on themselves. But the point is, these guys don't have to be the kingpins to have things like this done for them. As long as that connection back to the real hitters in the street is there, these things are always possible. However I doubt RZA is dragged into this and is actually penalized for it.


My take on Wu-Tang has always been that there connection to OC has been financing drug packages as an investment.

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Not buying this one.


What exactly is there not to buy? As old as they are, this is from the late 90's, where Wu-Tang, as a rap group were still popular. But keep in mind these guys grew up in the streets, and have always been known to have connections with various criminals and some crime groups, even going as far as being considered on themselves. But the point is, these guys don't have to be the kingpins to have things like this done for them. As long as that connection back to the real hitters in the street is there, these things are always possible. However I doubt RZA is dragged into this and is actually penalized for it.


I feel like if there was any real compelling evidence, the FBI would have loved to nail these guys.

Sounds like a drug dealer trying to blame it on a high profile rap star, to me.

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