Author Robert Sberna is following Asaro's trial for Gangsters Inc. Read more here: http://gangstersinc.ning.com/profiles/blogs/gangsters-inc-report-goodfella-vincent-asaro-s-trial

so heres a new twist the cousin did get his share of the heist 750k thats alot of money in 1979 today what 1.5 million in cash. like whats a house in queens go for back then 100k 150k for a big one. whats the real story here. one day in 2008 he calls the feds cause he broke wtf. and just start giving up your blood family. i guess he was mad he didnt get more money from the heist cause after all the guys got whacked he thought he deserved more. be grafteful your cousin didnt let you get killed. and why didnt he get made his own son is a made guy. wonder what happend there. i just dont get how he went broke after that score. must have a drug or gambling problem and he did live in las vegas.

He probably spent his money like a fool. It's not like you can incest the $750k, either.

the cousin was broke needed money jealous that his kid spends more time with vinny. Vinny used to mock him the truth is the guy was broke he knew he could give the feds some decent info plus wear a wire and the feds were right they got the boss of the entire family tommy d and jack bonventre vito and vinny asaro of course

there whole family is disfunctionl jerome asaro does not speak to vinny valanetis kid does not speak to his own father but speaks to his father. Jerry is the only one who is a real gangster there


he was a joke though the cousin even in court he admitted vinny and all the mobsters mocked and laughed at him he was always a joke and was a degenerate

The latest I read on this trial the cousin had a bad gambling problem. Was borrowing money and couldn't pay it back so the feds gave him a free ride but how do you sell out your kid and family was a piece of garbagggeeee. Like french garbageee. He was even in trouble some shit he had nightmares he couldn't eat shrimp scampi. As a late bloomer in life of how good shrimp is I love shrimp scampi. But did you ever look at the cholesterol in shrimp. Your gonna die young. Old bay n butter so good. Big sneaky I read and heard on YouTube massino becomes a capo after galante gets hit July 79 so asaro wasn't in joes crew till then ect. Who was his real capo in dec78. Wonder wat galante got out the heist I can't see him not tasting something or was he in jail? I miss hairy k.

Grandson of John Gotti heard on secretly recorded tape played during racketeering trial for Vincent Asaro

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/gr...ticle-1.2408696

fucking press had to mention the gotti name its irritates me i mean all the kid said was hello

i think jumbo was the guy who got the 75k loan which tommy vinny and jack all got a part of i think vito got a bit


even though i dislike vinny i sympathies wit him when about his cousin how could you betray your own blood and come on he was a degenerate the feds offered to pay his gambling debts

and why the feds wanted him to tell vinny in 2013 he flipped i dont know that was wrong you cant do that lucky they did it with a 80 year old i could see some of the younger guys flipping out wire or no fucking wire


vinnys son is a real gangster when compared to vinny and what the fuck does the father know he let his son be with those guys his son who is nothing special has reached higher than he ever did because the father was nothing more than a hangeron


plus his father is damaging his own son by flipping what sort of father is he fucking disgrace




still very good article

Did massino get up today. This guy Gaspar might be one of the worst rats ever. Just gave up his cousin and son for money from the government. That's a bad look for the mob. Bosses who look at there soldiers gonna wonder whose paying there electric bill. This is the first I've heard of a guy becoming a FBI agent at age 65 to pay his bills. Like did he just Google a FBI number.

the only case that is like this is the ron previte kept saying he would not wear a wire but he accepted it when the feds paid him million over 3 years i think that was the final amount never did prison time ever when he flipped ridiculous plus he was allowed to keep his sports book the feds got him a car aswell




the tapes showed how ridiculous the whole thing is vinny asaro said how he went into one social club and they kicked him out did not welcome him. He says how his son wont loan him money. He says how he is so broke. This is a mob capo he says he finds it difficult to get food stamps. He said how poor he was and admitted he was degenerate saying he gambled everything away and how back in the 80s he never thought he would be in this situation he then talks about hijacking a truck of ciggerates but backs out saying he will get caught then he pulls a "scam" robbing a drug dealer of 2k


times have defo fallen hard on vinnie was it worth paying the cousin when vinnie is basicily a brokester? you could argue it was worth it they got Tommy D and Jack B and vito because of the investigation

i hope we find out how much they paid him

Good call GR its kinda sad how broke he is..I agree the part in the article where they say Asaro knows his cousins a rat and just drives off is interesting like if he knew then ud think hed have stayed w him, felt him out then whacked him instead of driving off in defeAt saying "dont call me" ?

i think valenti would never have got in the car with him after he told vinny that he was following the feds plan and vinny at his age would not be able to force him. I think by this stage vinny had given up he even admitted on tape that his gambling addicition has been his biggest problem

yearh it is quite sad he is that broke but then you have to remember he is a gangster and not only that its not like he did not have the opportunity from the 80s+ he did zero time i dont understand how all the money he made over the years plus the luthfansa heist plus being a capo through the 80s meant he could end up in the state he was it is partly his own fault he got demoted in the 90s because of his addiction. His personality did not help either

the cousin is garbage betraying your own blood for money

Vitale has already testified. Massino is due to testify later this week.

I wonder what shape Massino is in?

A morbidly obese 72 year old diabetic who by all accounts had made little effort to change his diet as of a decade ago.

You guys are a trip man. "It's sad he is broke" ? Lol my heart is bleeding for this guy. This guy wouldn't piss on your mother if she was on fire. Let's be real, this isn't like a retired ball player you once held near and dear.

Spot-on.

you know the reality of "the life". I'm sure you have been around plenty of these guys. I've been around only a few, but it seems to me the low life's far outnumber the gentlemen.

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Vegas - I didnt mean "sad" like i feel bad for him, hes clearly a piece of shit and deserves what he gets, I meant sad like pathetic to get that gigantic sum of money and not be able to turn into something so ur not broke when your 80..takes 99% of legit people fuckin a decade or more to earn that kind of scratch thats all I meant

Any one got a guess as to how old jimmy Burke's was during the heist I'm thinking young21. Less. But that kid guy had a rep into the 80tys but got whacked to I believe. Must have hurt his lips soul little that dude had. Rainy noreaster. I guess that gambino as. Bud z is testifying I'm guessing they don't bring out massino and it was all a ruse to scare the last of the old wiseguys on the street. Maybe massino fat dibectic an blind losing toes goes on a weekly base. He has them so much it must be hard for them to expose there wild card again meaning the gov. They lost at that genovese guys trial 2 years ago.

Spell check crushed in lazy no fix.

HHah pmac idk even how to approach reading what u just wrote jesus christ..and u know your shit and always have good insight but god dayumn

I was wondering since I think vinny was bumped down to soldier whos crew is he currently in? Hes not in his sons crew is he? Thatd be a fucked up dynamic even for that family..jack bonventres crew?? Amy insight fellas?

the son he has a his own crew a differant crew to vinny. Valentis son reported to his son. His son had a real crew

jack bonventre i dont know what rank he is i assume he is a capo as they offered him the position of consglierie and he said no he does not want it


vinny was independent the feds said he was a capo but he did not have a crew he was sort of not reporting to anyone he was too old he went into a social club and was told to leave. His own son wont give him money he is a joke



now what got jack b and tommy D under indictment was that loan the guy a bonanno assoiate loaned 75k to a gambino assoicate who owned a car wash now i am not completely sure why but for some reason vinny, tommy D and Jack B felt entiled to some of the money. I think it was vinny who told them about the loan so he was to get his cut he was expecting a good bit but i think Tommy D took 15k which angered vinny as he was expecting a bigger share


but apart from that score he was not kicking up he was not given any rackets he was sort of left out he was a brokester by this time he was 80 you can expect him to be earning on the streets i mean robbing a drug dealer for 2k was the best they can come up with he said he did not even know what was going on in ozone park. He only kicked up 15k because it was a big score and if tommy or those guys found out they could take a big cut or vinny could have got in trouble


its funny though because the press were saying a few years ago that vinny was going to be the next massimo how he was a long time powerful capo who was going to run the family and that bullshit shows they dont know shit i mean vinny was talking about how hard it is to get food stamps its ridiculous what the press come out with sometimes

Asaro was NOT independent. He was busted down to the rank of soldier after the tapes got out of him talking shit about Tommy D, the acting boss.

Ya it was either in the indictment or a detention memo that stated for a time Asaro was on a ruling panel along with difiore running the family before they had a falling out.

Ditto.

@GR --- For the last time. STOP regurgitating books and articles that were sketchy on facts to begin with. It's not doing you any good here. Why dont you just read the boards for awhile before jumping in with such definitive opinions. That's just some friendly advice because you're driving half the board crazy. Just post nice and easy.

i am being misquoted again and its not everyone half of the guys on i have good conversations with its the same people....


but i will stop posting here because same people are giving me a problem infact its only two people while the majority are ok but if people are getting annoyed i will leave

ok will do it your way i will post less and try and post in a way i am not annoying certain people

GR, you seem like a good poster and a good kid.

Just take the advice that respected posters give you, like PB, and run with it. Keep posting. Me, personally, I find your posts interesting. You seem like a good nice kid. Just listen to what people that know what they're talking about and you'll do fine.

And don't get offended. PB is just giving friendly advice.

So who were members of Vinny Asaros crew when he was a capo? I have been wondering this ever since he was indicted.. And is there a acting capo of his crew now? or just a new capo since he was demoted to soldier?

Nobody misquoted you, or is giving you a hard time or even remotely desires you to leave. But you post a lot of inaccurate information and pass it off as fact. You don't see anything wrong with that?