Originally Posted By: Ivan
The OP does raise an interesting point in that you don't really see any more "uncontrollable psycho killers" like say Tommy DeSimone or the Gemini crew or Gaspipe. Where'd they all go?

My guess is that those guys weren't really all that berserk to begin with; they were just capable of killing casually and were in an environment in which they were able to do so. But they weren't the runaway freight trains that they have been depicted as. They are still around, but have adapted. I think Montreal proves that the potential for that sort of mayhem is still around; the guys in America just don't do it because it's too hard to get away with, not because they are any less murderous than they used to be.

Of course. It's not that it's a kinder and gentler Mafia, just a Mafia that doesn't want to do life without parole anymore. In Canada you can cop to murder and be out in eight to ten. Big difference.

Although I do disagree with you on one point. There aren't nearly as many American mob guys with the stomach for murder today. You have to grow up dirt poor and in the thick of a heavily populated mob presence to become that kind of of gangster. And poverty isn't nearly as much of a problem for Italian Americans today, not to mention the fact that the stronghold neighborhoods are nearly all gone.


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