Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: gangstereport
Originally Posted By: mulberry
The Genovese rats didn't do much actual damage as far as putting people in prison.

As far as attrition, I would say Chicago has been hit the hardest of the sirviving families. The power they have now is nothing compared to the 1980's when they still controlled the casinos and unions. They are down from 6 crews to two crew with not much more than gambling and shy.



are you joking?

Anthony “Bingy” Arilotta- helped decimate the springfield genovese crew and took down the boss of the entire genovese family.

Vincent "Fish" Cafaro- Soldier helped bring down gigante and others he was a major damage to the family


all families have been damaged by rats



the outfit is alot weaker than it was but it has three crews and still a force with some union clout and links to rackets like contruction



philly has been damaged the most by rats without a doubt. Then the bonanno family


Nigro was the former acting boss at the time of his indictment. And he had that position because he is part of the crew that is basically the default leadership for the whole family. Other guys from that crew also were acting boss at one point - Bellomo, Serpico, Muscarella, DeLuca.

I think Mulberry's point is the Genovese defections haven't been as damaging to them as those of other families. Arilotta, Tranghese, and Ruggiero were are part of crews on the outskirts, so to speak, and not the family's powerbase in New York/New Jersey. Cafaro was just one of several witnesses against Gigante who would have been convicted anyway. And he was on the way out in terms of his health. More to the point, the family hasn't had any key guys like a Sammy Gravano, AL D'Arco, or Sal Vitae who did a lot of damage on their own and/or caused a domino effect of others flipping.


Yes I agree with you of course but by the time Gravano,Al darco and Vitale fliped the mob has long passed its hayday and the bosses and others were gonna get convicted anyway,just look at the mafia commision trial years earlier.Before Valachi it was nobody talked,and what Valachi did was in fact a chain reaction and it slowly opened the door for all the rats to come out evantually...It was a debacle.Early 1960s when the mafia was the strongest,there comes this Genovese guy who tells the world what its all about,and Vito is to blame,and so are the guys who havent killed him in time.So even thoug what you are saying is true take that into consideration.